Barbarossa

[aoffen]

Playing my first PBEM game as the Axis and wondering what forces levels I need to invade Russia.

As it is my first game I am playing pretty historically to see how thing develop. I have put quite a bit of effort into the BoA and the desert war and am looking like I will have 6 elite Pz Corps, 3 Motorised corps and the usual infantry host for Russia. I will have another Pz Corp, German inf corp and almost all the Italian effort directed down in Nth Africa.

Is it enough or am I launching into Russia underdone?

Regards
Andrew

[stjeand]

First off...you should launch your attack in 41. Russia is far to weak and waiting a year will just give them 20+ more units.

Your force seems a little light armor wise though...Any Italian armor?

I like to have 8 panzers and 4 mech...and then fill in Africa a bit after the attack starts and I can build another unit.

[ncc1701e]

Manage your Panzer corps. Don't hesitate to make a pause during one turn. Also, try to keep them always in range of an HQ and at the latest technology.

[stjeand]

Supply trucks, supply trucks, supply trucks...you should have multiple hundreds for the attack.

[ncc1701e]

Also, try to surround units to prevent them to come back (new shatter rule).

[aoffen]

So revisiting this thread. What are the thoughts re air support for Bargaross? Currently I have 4 interceptors 4 TAC air and 3 CAS. Feels quite light on. The question is - is it worth building more?

[boldairade]

the old logic on barbarossa was to pour most of your resources into armor/supply trucks.

'pro' players usually eschewed additional air assets.

this may have changed, i've been gone a long time. i know supply trucks aren't the deal they used to be.

i built a large-ish air force once, though. wore down the soviet fighters early, then had a LOT of stukas. and i found it useful and fun.

[ncc1701e]

ORIGINAL: stjeand

First off...you should launch your attack in 41. Russia is far to weak and waiting a year will just give them 20+ more units.

Your force seems a little light armor wise though...Any Italian armor?

I like to have 8 panzers and 4 mech...and then fill in Africa a bit after the attack starts and I can build another unit.

So basically, you are putting 8 Armor and 4 Mech in Russia?
I am trying to improve my Barbarossa. But, my build list after France 1940 is poor because I have problems to reach these numbers in time. Do you attack in May? June?

[sveint]

My basic rules for what I need:

10 Panzers, no more
A couple of extra bombers
An extra fighter (or two), mostly for the Med/West
Lots and lots and LOTS of infantry, can never have enough
I don't use supply trucks much anymore, rather have reserve units and cycle the frontline

I do switch things up in every game though. A clear favorite I haven't tried in the latest patch was escort fighters, they are simply excellent for Germany

[redrum68]

10 Panzers, no more
A couple of extra bombers

Why not a few more panzers instead of building extra bombers?

[sveint]

Bombers are better for winning hard battles. When you need to fight some Siberians or tanks more panzers won't help, more bombers will.

[ncc1701e]

Thanks for the tips.