Troop Convoys loading supplies after troops - stop it!

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I am very new to the game. I may be missing something here, but when I send a Transport or Amphib convoy to a base to load troops, it loads the troops then immediately starts loading supplies after. It has, on many occasions, robbed thousands of supply points from a base that I didn't want to load onto the transports.

Is there any way to intervene from transport or amphib conboy ships immediately loading supplies once the troops are boarded? I don' want that to occur any longer if there is a way to prevent it.
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Don’t know the answer to your question but when I read the manual it also sets supplies away for the loaded troops otherwise they will starve, IIRC. See 6.3.2 on why and how not to. Note I am a newbie still.
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I am very new to the game. I may be missing something here, but when I send a Transport or Amphib convoy to a base to load troops, it loads the troops then immediately starts loading supplies after. It has, on many occasions, robbed thousands of supply points from a base that I didn't want to load onto the transports.

Is there any way to intervene from transport or amphib conboy ships immediately loading supplies once the troops are boarded? I don' want that to occur any longer if there is a way to prevent it.

Right after you click the "Load Troops" button, a new screen appears and at the bottom left is a "TurnOnLoad Troops Only" button.
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I am very new to the game. I may be missing something here, but when I send a Transport or Amphib convoy to a base to load troops, it loads the troops then immediately starts loading supplies after. It has, on many occasions, robbed thousands of supply points from a base that I didn't want to load onto the transports.

Is there any way to intervene from transport or amphib conboy ships immediately loading supplies once the troops are boarded? I don' want that to occur any longer if there is a way to prevent it.

Right after you click the "Load Troops" button, a new screen appears and at the bottom left is a "TurnOnLoad Troops Only" button.

Yes but it must be noted that when loaded amphibiously that there will still be supplies loaded, I do believe three days worth of supplies.

The supplies are not being "robbed" but rather you apparently did not know about the "do not load the supplies" and there is an even more important one for not loading fuel. After all, the fuel tends to burn if the ship is damaged and will thus BBQ everything on board.
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Right after you click the "Load Troops" button, a new screen appears and at the bottom left is a "TurnOnLoad Troops Only" button.

Mind blown. I've seen that button so many times but didn't bother to look at it. GRATEFUL to you!
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Also, and maybe more importantly, welcome to the forum.

Here are some threads to bookmark and read:

FAQ / Info for Newb's

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2260137

Useful Info for Beginners

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2576157
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Noted and thank you. Loading 3 days of supplies is acceptable. Loading the entire base's supplies is not!
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Noted and thank you. Loading 3 days of supplies is acceptable. Loading the entire base's supplies is not!

After loading your troops with minimal supplies, if you wish to add supplies from another base so the troops will have plenty when they disembark, DON'T FORGET TO SET THE TF TO "DO NOT UNLOAD" AND "REMAIN ON STATION" before you dock at the second port. Once the additional supplies are loaded and the TF is underway again, DON'T FORGET TO SET THE TF TO "UNLOAD" so it will do so when it gets to destination.

Things like that are why I touch on every TF on my board to ensure all is going as planned (but maybe not yet properly ordered!). [:)]
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Excellent tips! Thanks guys!
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Noted and thank you. Loading 3 days of supplies is acceptable. Loading the entire base's supplies is not!

Yes. Have fun with the game and enjoy it.
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Don't forget also that you can name your convoys so you know what should go where . . .

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Ok DAT question, all mine are named TFxxx what is a good TF ? TF Darwin Supplies?

Told ya it’s a DAT question ( first thing they taught us in boot camp “the only dumb question is the one not asked” )
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…probably cause we were all DATs lol…
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You can name your TFs whatever shorthand works for you.
The name you type appears during a mouse over without having to click on the TF.

For a troop convoy I might type the main unit and destination, eg: 9AusDiv Melb

For IJN convoys, I use a prefix of R, S, O or F to remind me what is loaded.
Then the first three letters of port from/port to.
Eg: OPalSin = Oil from Palembang to Singapore.

It saves me from diverting task forces from their intended purpose unless there is some sort of urgent need, especially the convoys set to run continuously.

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Ok DAT question, all mine are named TFxxx what is a good TF ? TF Darwin Supplies?

Told ya it’s a DAT question ( first thing they taught us in boot camp “the only dumb question is the one not asked” )

Pearl Harbor Fuel, Sydney Fuel, Pearl Harbor Supplies, Sydney Supplies. Generally, use the shorter legged vessels for the closer ports. Set up refueling hubs so a small fuel convoy might be Christmas Island (PAC) fuel.

Guadalcanal Invasion should be an obvious one.

For ground units going to Oz for Mac, SWPAC land forces . . .

"The only stupid question is the one that has been asked twice." That is because you weren't listening the first time. Clarification is not stupid. Rewording the question that is asking the same thing is stupid but it has been done here . . .
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"TF naming" is also an in-game way to post reminders for yourself. I create a number of 1-ship TFs and leave them parked in LA, but the TF name is something like "Don't forget transiting air unit at location X" or "Land unit railing to Cooktown needs to be in combat mode", etc. Of course even those reminders need shorthand to fit within the available space, but you get the idea. Especially useful for unit moves and other things going on in the backwater areas.
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Thanks fellows those TF ideas really helped.

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Noted and thank you. Loading 3 days of supplies is acceptable. Loading the entire base's supplies is not!

It will never do that, might take the majority but it will alway leave some for the bases immediate need, Think its 3 days again but might be 5.
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It is three days of combat / three weeks of non-combat

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I am very new to the game. I may be missing something here, but when I send a Transport or Amphib convoy to a base to load troops, it loads the troops then immediately starts loading supplies after. It has, on many occasions, robbed thousands of supply points from a base that I didn't want to load onto the transports.

Is there any way to intervene from transport or amphib conboy ships immediately loading supplies once the troops are boarded? I don' want that to occur any longer if there is a way to prevent it.

Can’t say I’ve seen that. I had a convoy that loaded troops and proceeded to load the base supply down to 0 before I realized what it had done.
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