Korsun today, tomorrow Stalingrad?

Jacko · Post by **Jacko** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:52 am

Although I think the battle of Korsun has been chosen rightfully, since it is a very interesting episod of the Eastern Front, I wonder whether there are any other planes for this series (if I may call it that after two battles). The battle of Stalingrad (especially after the encirclement of the 6th Army) would be another great choice. I know it is way too early, but are there any future plans and if so, is Stalingrad an option?

Titan · Post by **Titan** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:34 am

citdal would be my choice

sol_invictus · Post by **sol_invictus** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:48 am

Kharkov or Velikye Luki.

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:58 am

Im wanting stalingrad too

Boat transport would have to be added

Or Sevestapol ( I think I spelled that right)
Underlooked battle..I think it would be fun

Rob Gjessing · Post by **Rob Gjessing** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:16 am

Dont want to get into too much trouble for leaking information, but yes there are other plans for other games in the series, the next one will be Battles in Normandy, and I have also seen some maps and builds of other battles too.. all Im going to say is that the Starlingrad Map looks pretty **** nice

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:18 am

NOOOOOO

Please no

I am so sick of Normandy

I believe I have played that **** battle in every possible way there is to play the thing

If you want to do west front...how about the Med?
It never gets any attention

Rob Gjessing · Post by **Rob Gjessing** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:22 am

Yeah but you havent played it using the DBWWII engine..

Who knows that Italy wont sprout up..?!?

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:56 am

By the time Italy comes 25 more games about Normandy will have also

Wallenstein · Post by **Wallenstein** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:35 am

Hmm, a few suggestions:

-) the Kiev - Shitomir area 1943/44
-) Kharkov 1943
-) the German relief attempts of Budapest 1945 and their last offensive in the east: "Frühlingserwachen"
-) Operation Nordwind 1945
-) Yes, Citadel 1943 would be nice as well

I fully agree with Fallschirmjaeger, the battle for Normandy has been covered by sooooo many games, I think I know every tree there in 1944...but I realise that a wargame featuring D-Day has a better chance to become a commercial success than any other battlefield.
In general, I like games with much movement, where both side have to master offensive and defensive tasks with- so Italy would seem to be a little boring to me...

Rob Gjessing · Post by **Rob Gjessing** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:41 am

Anzio was one of my favourite scenarios under the old Battlefront System from SSG.. its was great..

Jacko · Post by **Jacko** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:24 pm

Stalingrad would offer the opportunity to see whether the 6th Army could have launched a succesfull breakout. That operation alone would be so complex that it would be a feast for military gamers. Personaly I love those " what-if"- situations, as long as it feel realistic. So I'm definitely hoping for Stalingrad.

Normandy will be welcome as well. Especially the first 24 hours are fascinating. And let's be realistic, it would sell well and whether we like it or not that is still the most important factor. But first I will concentrate on Korsun and I'm preparing myself by reading Douglas E. Nash excellent book " Hell's Gate" which I can recommend to everyone who is searching for a good book on the subject.

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:56 pm

the German relief attempts of Budapest 1945 and their last offensive in the east: "Frühlingserwachen"

My grandpa got captured in that campaign by the russians. He "stayed" five more years with them then ....

I personally am looking forward to a "Normandy" sequel. I personally would love to see a France 1940 campaign.

Titan · Post by **Titan** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:17 pm

Another which would be very interesting would be operation Typhoon,it would could be a real thriller for the Germans to do better than they did historically,and it is a battle that is not depicted to often

Paratrooper · Post by **Paratrooper** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:51 pm

Originally posted by Rob Gjessing
Dont want to get into too much trouble for leaking information, but yes there are other plans for other games in the series, the next one will be Battles in Normandy, and I have also seen some maps and builds of other battles too.. all Im going to say is that the Starlingrad Map looks pretty **** nice

I'd buy it BUT only if it includes:
Cobra
Charnwood
Goodwood
Falaise Gap

Be nice if it included a bonus Anvil campaign also.

mariovalleemtl · Post by **mariovalleemtl** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 6:43 pm

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Please.

mv

"Joss" Osborne · Post by **"Joss" Osborne** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:20 pm

You mean something like this?:D

Von Rom · Post by **Von Rom** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:41 pm

Originally posted by Mario Vallée
Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica ! Rommel in North Affrica !

Please.

mv

That's also my choice. The full North African campaign. . .

Cheers!

PeterF · Post by **PeterF** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:42 pm

Rommel in North Affrica !

etc.

These games seem rather better suited to theaters with well defined frontages; slogging matches as it were, like Normandy (except Cobra). The war in N Africa was very supply centered and
fluid. I'm not sure it would make a good matchup.

What we need are early war scenarios! Like Barbarossa, over-worked in the past, true, but not recently.

"Joss" Osborne · Post by **"Joss" Osborne** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 8:24 pm

Originally posted by PeterF
etc.

These games seem rather better suited to theaters with well defined frontages; slogging matches as it were, like Normandy (except Cobra). The war in N Africa was very supply centered and
fluid. I'm not sure it would make a good matchup.

What we need are early war scenarios! Like Barbarossa, over-worked in the past, true, but not recently.

There appears to be somewhat of a limitation in map size to try and do something like Barbarossa. Unless I'm missing something max size of the map is 66 x 48 hexes whic would equate to 198 km by 144 km not big enough to do Barbarossa.

It would seem to me that the game is best suited for small "campaigns" like Operation Crusader, Kursk, El Alamein...those kinds of engagements rather than large "fronts".

I agree the "War in North Africa" would be too large for this scale, but Operation Crusader, Compass, Gazala...etc might fit the bill.

Toxie · Post by **Toxie** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:43 am

Speaking of Normandy games we've all played. I love to see
Patton's breakout, Cobra. That's rarely covered, if at all except there was a boardgame of that a long time ago and it was great. I think this system would
be good for this operation.

Toxie

Korsun today, tomorrow Stalingrad?

Korsun today, tomorrow Stalingrad?

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Deutsche Afrika Korps

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