e.g.:
- armored cars are sometiems mentioned, sometimes not (occasionally way more). I now simply added them from the start to all (medium TOE 10/192 from April 1943 cites them! (Zaloga, Ness. red army handbook, page 93)) - I also have German intel reports showing them in all TOEs at the start of 1944 with the old manpower numbers (so from spring 1943) and again for a Light Regiment which you can see here:
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- There is the possibility that generally some recon men are missing (highly likely), like 1 Squad at max but it's all not rly clear, Intel gives "8men" or "1 Squad" - while Niehorster gives much larger numbers for his 1944 TOEs (which I can not find/confirm with other sources).
- some differences may also come from whether a Regiment was supposed to be attached to a Corps or as an Army-Reserve (and so on)...not sure.
LIGHT
The light Regiments were Light "Divizions" (I can't read cayrillic, but the letters are always different then when somethign is described as an Regimenthttp://tankfront.ru/ussr/organisation/org_sa.html wrote:Self-propelled artillery shelves, which were in service with the SU-76 unit, consisted of 5 batteries for four installations and support units, the same as in the regiment of SU-122 (253 people, 21 SU-76).
In mid-1943, in all self-propelled artillery regiments, a significant reduction of personnel was made, the very organization of regiments remained the same.
In October 1943, the staff of the 4-batary regiment was recognized as the most congruented. In the period from October 1943 to February 1944, all regiments received self-propelled artillery for battery commanders and were transferred to new states. According to them, self-propelled artillery regiments began to have four batteries of five self-propelled artillery installations in each. Regiments SU-76 according to the new state No. 010/484 (225 people, 21 SU-76).
), therefore they differ from the Medium and Heavy Regiments.I could not find evidence, that Light SU Regiments (I'll keep calling the Divizions Regiments) ever got any directly attached Infantry. Neither intel strength reports, nor intel TOEs, nor any other sources besides the sometimes mentioned "all Regiments had the same composition" (which usually refers to the number/composition of SPGs).
So three of this Regiments built up a Light SU Brigade and since they did not have internal Infantry, the Brigade received a Motor SMG Battalion.
Following a report from July 1944. Note the only 42MP.
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Above Medium and below Heavy seem to largely been having the same composition besides some manpower difference. With those there are occasionally reports about larger numbers of APCs, but I can't say for sure which and for which parts of the regiment.http://tankfront.ru/ussr/organisation/org_sa.html wrote:Since April 1943, the formation of self-propelled artillery regiments with the same type of installations began. The regiments that had self-propelled artillery SU-122, were created according to the staff No. 010/453 (255 people, 16 SU-122 and 1 T-34).
In mid-1943, in all self-propelled artillery regiments, a significant reduction of personnel was made, the very organization of regiments remained the same.
Since the autumn of 1943, after the adoption of the SU-85, the formation of regiments of the SU-85 in the staff No. 010/483 (230 people, 16 SU-85 and 1 T-34) began.
In October 1943, the staff of the 4-batary regiment was recognized as the most congruented. In the period from October 1943 to February 1944, all regiments received self-propelled artillery for battery commanders and were transferred to new states. According to them, self-propelled artillery regiments began to have four batteries of five self-propelled artillery installations in each. [...] the SU-85 (states No. 010/462, 1944 - 318 people, 21 SU-85) and [...] additionally introduced by the company of machine gunners and sapper platoon.
Since November 1944, the regiments of the SU-85 began to be re-equipped with SU-100 units in the new state No. 010/462 1944 (318 people, 21 SU-100), similar in organizational structure to the SU-85 regiment of state No. 010/462.
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Staff No. 010/462 (February 4, 1944)
There were 318 people in the regiment. The material part in the regiment was provided for 21 SU-85.
HEAVY
http://tankfront.ru/ussr/organisation/org_sa.html wrote:In the spring of 1943, the Red Army began to form heavy self-propelled artillery regiments RVGK on the SU-152 in the state No. 08/218 (361 people, 12 SU-152).
Since April 1943, the formation of self-propelled artillery regiments with the same type of installations began.
Heavy self-propelled artillery regiments of RVGK were transferred to staff No. 010/454, differing from the previous state by introducing the KB tank regiment for the commander of the regiment and one BA-64 armored car for reconnaissance and communications.
In mid-1943, in all self-propelled artillery regiments, a significant reduction of personnel was made, the very organization of regiments remained the same.
In October 1943, the heavy self-propelled artillery regiments of the SU-152 were reorganized by the staff No. 010/482 (234 people, 12 SU-152 and 1 KV-1S).
In October 1943, the staff of the 4-batary regiment was recognized as the most congruented. In the period from October 1943 to February 1944, all regiments received self-propelled artillery for battery commanders and were transferred to new states. According to them, self-propelled artillery regiments began to have four batteries of five self-propelled artillery installations in each. [...] SU-152 (states No. 010/461, 1944 - 21 SU-152 additionally introduced by the company of machine gunners and sapper platoon.
The SU-152 regiment in state No. 010/461 had an organization similar to the SU-85 regiment. In the spring of 1944, the heavy self-propelled artillery regiments of the SU-152 were re-equipped for the installations of the ISU-122 and ISU-152, transferred to new states and all of them were awarded the rank of guards.
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State No. 010/461 (February 7, 1944)
There were 420 people in the regiment. The material unit in the shelf provided for 21 ISU-152 or ISU-122