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RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:25 am
by tebeinteresno
ORIGINAL: W1ll14m
Looking good! Which area is this?
Does the area have water ways? They cause me the most pain (having to shift towns and roads in order to make them align with hex edges).
William
Its in South East from Fulda. Area of first 3 maps in Red Storm campaigns.
More remaked roads and rivers/lakes on next step! )
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:25 am
by tebeinteresno
just redrawed and added more roads and rivers
true color
https://yadi.sk/i/fZMOd7q6jDwtn
contour
https://yadi.sk/i/D0sUyqkujDwve
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:10 pm
by WildCatNL
ORIGINAL: tebeinteresno
Its in South East from Fulda. Area of first 3 maps in Red Storm campaigns.
More remaked roads and rivers/lakes on next step! )
Looks good. I really like the shape of the minor rivers.
Wrt the roads, in case you like to approximate the late 1980's situation, you need to drop the A71 highway since it wasn't built until the late 1990's, and resurrect part of the primary road B19.
See (although this leaves still a lot to guess):
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesautobahn_71
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http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/Auto ... te1990.pdf
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesstra%C3%9Fe_19
William
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:40 pm
by tebeinteresno
Oh tnx! [&o]
Fixed it!
Here is forest step.
First of all, I would like to draw the shapes of forests, and then go adding details.
But before that, I would like to place all settlements on the map (the hardest part). I have a couple of methods as it can be solved, but still, both not very pleasing to me)
Only then add fields and parts of trees.
And then I can do the signatures and names.
full map here
https://yadi.sk/i/8xfb_LGrjJcxq
I have not yet made the north west side, I decided to do it after villages
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:18 pm
by WildCatNL
Cool forest texture. And elevation has become a lot easier to see now, due to the shading and the elevation coloring of the forests.
Wrt shading: I've been using the 'traditional' NW sun position, which, although not realistic, is pretty much what people are used/trained to read in other maps. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrain_c ... ded_relief
My work sequence creating a map is elevation, rivers, highways, streams, other roads & rail-roads, towns, forests, fields, labels.
William
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:55 pm
by tebeinteresno
Thanks!
I didn't know about that shading. Thanks!
I decided to make a realistic shading like on northern hemisphere, but NW shading can be done on a topographic map (convert one into the other is not so difficult).
I want to add icons railway stations and churches to give some more mapstyle, for those who want to create a scenario for example: "to complete the mission you need to keep the 4 railway stations"
That icons used on this millitary maps
http://loadmap.net/en
Especially the Russian language is my native language, so, why not? )
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:30 am
by WildCatNL
ORIGINAL: tebeinteresno
That icons used on this millitary maps
http://loadmap.net/en
Especially the Russian language is my native language, so, why not? )
Thanks for the loadmap.net pointer. The maps look to originate from the 1980's (it doesn't have the highway A71 we discussed), and a good source t work from. Since you're fluent in Russian, can you tell me from when exactly these the maps are?
William
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:01 am
by tebeinteresno
ORIGINAL: W1ll14m
Thanks for the loadmap.net pointer. The maps look to originate from the 1980's (it doesn't have the highway A71 we discussed), and a good source t work from. Since you're fluent in Russian, can you tell me from when exactly these the maps are?
William
These maps definitely came from the Soviet period. At least, the separation of East and West Germany says that the Soviet Union was still alive.
I tried to look for some sources about date the creation of maps. Most of them agreed for the period on 1980s, but not later. )
Here, for example, Soviet map of Eastern Europe since the 1940
http://retromap.ru/mapster.php#left=141 ... 99&lang=ru
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:29 am
by tebeinteresno
Finally got around to the map.
Towns and forests have been complished.
Next step: more details and labels
Full map:
https://yadi.sk/i/Jvh3mEWMjXA3a
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:59 am
by battlerbritain
Looking good tebe.
What are you using to draw this?
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:35 am
by tebeinteresno
ORIGINAL: battlerbritain
Looking good tebe.
What are you using to draw this?
- Photoshop
- Different maps
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:35 pm
by tebeinteresno
Now with town labels
And another test of topographic map
Full map here
https://yadi.sk/i/Gb0x38mljXpM2
Full topomap here
https://yadi.sk/i/_nOYeJDBjXpMW
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:58 pm
by CapnDarwin
Nice looking maps. [8D]
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:34 pm
by Stimpak
Airport!
And the border too, really nice.
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:55 pm
by kipanderson
Tebeinteresno,
Wow.. Topographic is tremendous.. !
Have always had a weakness for wanting wargames maps to use that look.
Congratulations.
All the best,
Kip.
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:36 pm
by Mad Russian
The issue with topo maps is a lot of people can't read them.
Good Hunting.
MR
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:48 pm
by tebeinteresno
ORIGINAL: Mad Russian
The issue with topo maps is a lot of people can't read them.
Good Hunting.
MR
Thank you for your opinion.
The presence of a topographic map shows that the original map can be styled in different ways.
Just wanted to stylize it like Soviet military topographic map.
There is still a lot of things need to be fix, improve and add.
Only after I will achieve an acceptable result and processing of materials for fill map, I will move on to the next area in the northwest
In any case, the work in progress!
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:51 pm
by WildCatNL
Amazing stuff, Tebeinteresno!
These maps feature some of the best details I've seen in any FCRS map; I especially like your towns (in the normal map), the 'natural' shape of the streams, the (colored) roads (topomap) and the art style for the topo-map, with the contour lines around the hex sides.
One thing I think you can improve on of the 'zoomed out' look of the 'topo' map. Without the irregularities of the forests outlines (in your normal map), the topo map lacks a bit character when zoomed out, and it is easier get lost when the map is scrolling.
William
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:58 pm
by tebeinteresno
ORIGINAL: W1ll14m
Amazing stuff, Tebeinteresno!
These maps feature some of the best details I've seen in any FCRS map; I especially like your towns (in the normal map), the 'natural' shape of the streams, the (colored) roads (topomap) and the art style for the topo-map, with the contour lines around the hex sides.
One thing I think you can improve on of the 'zoomed out' look of the 'topo' map. Without the irregularities of the forests outlines (in your normal map), the topo map lacks a bit character when zoomed out, and it is easier get lost when the map is scrolling.
William
Thanks, William!
I will need to experiment with the readability of text and details when in zoomed out.
Thanks!
RE: Redrawing Red Storm maps
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:00 pm
by tebeinteresno
By the way, will not change the resizing algorithm in the new version?