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RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:09 pm
by Hard Sarge
WOW, never knew the IJN had so many Subs !!!!!

totally different turn, guess both sides had better recon ?

Day Air attack on TF, near Buna at 55,90


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 25
SBD Dauntless x 78
TBF Avenger x 41
P-40E Warhawk x 1



Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Chokai, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CA Kako, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ariake
DD Wakaba

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger bombing at 3000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
5 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger bombing at 7000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBF Avenger bombing at 11000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 3000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 3000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 3000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 7000 feet
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Lae at 54,87


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 28
TBF Avenger x 28
P-40E Warhawk x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 4, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 3000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBF Avenger bombing at 7000 feet
5 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger bombing at 11000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 3000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 7000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 4000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 11000 feet
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so, I am getting Trop hits, not many, but they are hitting and the report is showing my TB's at different alts ?

HARD_Sarge


if this ends up not being a bug/mistake,think there is any change we could get the report changed, so it would read, if the plane was dropping Trops or if it was dropping bombs ? that could clear up so hassles on the players part as to what they are really seeing

hmmm wait one, look back at my other AAR, it shows Bettys lanching Trops at 200 ft, it is saying TBF's bombing from what ever and as that attack on the CA's with FOW off shows, I am dropping Trops

and from my first AAR, which shows the TBF's at the right height of 5000 ft, that says they are bombing also

????

HARD_Sarge


LOL what are those P-40's doing ? must be on Excourt from PM, long way to fly, to join a raid with no enemy Cap !!!!

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:38 pm
by Mr.Frag
FoW off means recon level is forced to 1 no matter what so better intel all around generally.

The fact they are reporting as bombing yet dropping torpedoes *is* a problem.

I count 40 TB's in the first attack out of 41 ... one got shot down I assume.

Need the save.

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:19 pm
by Hard Sarge
Mail sent, but I am having a hassle, when I zip it, it is coming in at 1.36, both my accounts say it is over the 1024 size limit to send ??????

I edited the ARR to take out details that were not needed, so I cut out the damaged and lost planes

for what it is worth, I have seen this since the game came out (I got it the first day it was ready for dl)

what alt should TBF's be at to drop Trops ?, playing with the Alt Arrows, I get 100 ft or 1000 ft

HARD_Sarge

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:40 pm
by Mr.Frag
You don't set the alt that it drops ... any alt except 100 will be fine.

It reports 200 feet as the drop height, that is NOT the height to set them to fly at.

see my reply to your email.

K, got your save, looking into what and why ... coupled with how [;)]

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:04 pm
by Hard Sarge
save has been sent

roger on we don't set the alt for the drop, but before 5000 was good for TBF's, but was just checking to see if I could "force" it to give the launching Trop message

but again, since I have had the game, the only planes I see with message is some of the betties that are based at Truk, the rest of the betties are between 10-15 K and my TFB/TBMs are shown at 5000, bombing

HARD_Sarge

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:09 pm
by Titanwarrior89
Mr. Frag did you get my combat report and save file I sent ya. Concering Bettys and torps.[:D]

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:09 am
by Odin
Some days ago i played the Marianas Scenario and attacked Palau with carriers, hitting the capital ships sitting in port.

Experimental i send in my Avengers at 16000 feet like the dive bombers, and it seems they all!! attacked with torpedos, scoring numerous torpedo hits.

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:29 am
by tabpub
Had this one happen to me yesterday and I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the problem, if there is any.

Day Air attack on TF, near Davao at 41,61
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 0-Sen x 17
B5N x 29
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N : 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Boise, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Marblehead
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B5N bombing at 8000 feet

Another oddity---they are noted as bombing and during the replay you can hear the “bombs”, but the used torpedoes according to the damage received and the graphics displayed…

RE: Level Bombers and Torps!

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:59 pm
by SKillelea
I am getting the exact same thing. Very rare torpedo hits, bomb falling sounds when the planes should be launching torpedoes, showing bombing run at flight altitude and not torpedoes dropped at 200 ft.... US CVs are operating within the range of Rabaul with impunity due to this.

SKillelea