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RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:54 pm
by larryfulkerson
While on a S&D mission a MACV security element found the Long An VC unit. It is
subsequently surrounded and attacked:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:54 pm
by larryfulkerson
While on a S&D mission a MACV recon element found a VC unit on the road in Binh Dinh
province that is subsequently surrounded and attacked:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:55 pm
by larryfulkerson
The South Koreans have surrounded the VC Phu Yen unit and are attacking it:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:56 pm
by larryfulkerson
The playback revealed a VC unit moving north to the NE of Tay Ninh and an element of
the ARVN 5th Div found it:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:57 pm
by larryfulkerson
The playback revealed an NVA unit moving northwest in the Quang Nam province and a Marine
recon element found it:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:57 pm
by larryfulkerson
Elements from the ARVN 9th and 21st Div's have surrounded and are going to attack two
VC units in the Chuong Thien province:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:58 pm
by larryfulkerson
While moving to Can Tho the 9th Div HQ discovered a VC unit near the road:

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:59 pm
by larryfulkerson
And here's the attack results:
attack results 66_0

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:59 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 80_99

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:00 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 70_5

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:01 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 37_151

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:01 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 115_56

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:02 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 117_76

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:03 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 34_151

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:04 pm
by larryfulkerson
attack results 59_43
And the turn ended here.

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:08 pm
by desert
Jeez, how many planes have you lost so far!?
The guy in the other match is losing like a tenth of the planes. How can guerillas with rifles shoot down jets anyway?
RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:34 am
by larryfulkerson
According to the END_OF_TURN_DO_NOT_SEND file these are the Allied losses so far:
Note: I'd rather lose aircraft than the ground squads. The ground units don't reconstitute and the aircraft squadrons do.

RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:37 am
by larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: desert
The guy in the other match is losing like a tenth of the planes. How can guerillas with rifles shoot down jets anyway?
That is my one gripe with this game....guys armed with bows and arrows are shooting jets down somehow. The losses are MUCH more than occured in real life. But I figure that it's a game engine bug and not a scenario bug. When they fixed the AAA units to be a bit more "powerful" I think they put too much ooomph in there. About the only way to make this scenario "balanced" for two PBEM players is to play mirror matches ( both players play both sides, one match at a time ) and see who did better or something.
RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:42 am
by larryfulkerson
Turn 3 additional info. this link below is UNCLASSIFIED since it shows the placement of every Allied unit on the map with the estimated position of various VC and NVA units.
This file is 2.3 Meg big so I'm supplying the link and not the map itself. Once you have the image showing in your browser, click on the image itself for the original size of the image.
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?c ... turn_3.JPG
RE: CSV Ron vs Larry
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:51 pm
by Hyding
Wow! You did bring in a boatload of troops. That's 36 EEV's worth of commitment points. You'll probably need a US replacement draft for another 4 EEVs. A commitment level of 30+ will cause you EEV to grow by 2 every 5 turns. Without any bombing campaign or additional troop commitment you will cross the 45 EEV line around the first of the year (1966). That'll be 5-7 months ahead of the historical timeline.
As you have probably noticed the sea transport levels for the US is only 40% of what it was in the previous version (2000 vs 5000) so you will be quite some time getting your forces into action. A slower pace in requesting your forces would put your troops on the ground at about the same pace but with a slightly lower EEV penalty.
On the plus side you gain the Australians, New Zealanders, and Koreans almost immediately and they enter directly in South Vietnam requiring no shipping.
Ron is going to be very miserable for a time but if he plays his cards right he will get to wave bye to US troops ahead of schedule.