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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:56 pm
by veji1
wow.. In all probability you have sunk 3 CVs and 6-10 CAs, always handy... now all you want is to avoid a lucky hit from LBA or a sub to spoil the party by hurting one of your CVs...
Can't wait for day 2.
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:58 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
Good job String - that should give you carrier superiority at least for another 9-12 months!!!
with the first "real" carrier coming in not before mid 43 I would expand this to at least 18 months if he can finish off the two heavily damaged carriers. Well done indeed, while I find it more than interesting how over 150 Allied bombers doing an attack run not score more than 4 hits on the enemy. First I thought the explanation is easy as I saw "thunderstorms" but on the other hand, the IJNAF seems to have been immune to thunderstorms in their attack. Could it be called strange that 150 Allied carrier based bombers only score 4 hits? Guess that´s something far off reality while the IJN attack was absoluetely devastating.
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:01 pm
by Rapunzel
Good job

I wish Andy would update his aar too.
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:22 pm
by String
ORIGINAL: veji1
wow.. In all probability you have sunk 3 CVs and 6-10 CAs, always handy... now all you want is to avoid a lucky hit from LBA or a sub to spoil the party by hurting one of your CVs...
Can't wait for day 2.
Given that this carrier battle was due to me plannin to invade Fiji.. well..
I'm not sure if I'm going to though. My main aim was not real estate but destroying allied LCU's and ships. The latter part has been achieved already. We'll see.
castor troy
It's even worse than that. I've expanded my naval production a bit, halted pretty much all of my subs and accelerated all of my carriers except Shinano and Ibuki. I'm getting Taiho and two Unryus in april '43 and another Unryu in June '43. that's another 260 planes.
Remember, this is scenario 2.
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:58 am
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: String
ORIGINAL: veji1
wow.. In all probability you have sunk 3 CVs and 6-10 CAs, always handy... now all you want is to avoid a lucky hit from LBA or a sub to spoil the party by hurting one of your CVs...
Can't wait for day 2.
Given that this carrier battle was due to me plannin to invade Fiji.. well..
I'm not sure if I'm going to though. My main aim was not real estate but destroying allied LCU's and ships. The latter part has been achieved already. We'll see.
castor troy
It's even worse than that. I've expanded my naval production a bit, halted pretty much all of my subs and accelerated all of my carriers except Shinano and Ibuki. I'm getting Taiho and two Unryus in april '43 and another Unryu in June '43. that's another 260 planes.
Remember, this is scenario 2.
leaves you in an excellent position. Now the biggest fault Andy could make until 44 would be to end up near your combined carrier force (if you keep them together) as this then would again whipe out the couple of carriers he will get (not counting the CVEs though). And until then you will be in an excellent position to raid his lines with a "normal" sized KB as there´s nothing that could actually hurt you. Fuel consumption perhaps.
While I think the Allied hit rate is totally off, it was nevertheless a very well pulled off operation!

RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:22 am
by String
ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: String
ORIGINAL: veji1
wow.. In all probability you have sunk 3 CVs and 6-10 CAs, always handy... now all you want is to avoid a lucky hit from LBA or a sub to spoil the party by hurting one of your CVs...
Can't wait for day 2.
Given that this carrier battle was due to me plannin to invade Fiji.. well..
I'm not sure if I'm going to though. My main aim was not real estate but destroying allied LCU's and ships. The latter part has been achieved already. We'll see.
castor troy
It's even worse than that. I've expanded my naval production a bit, halted pretty much all of my subs and accelerated all of my carriers except Shinano and Ibuki. I'm getting Taiho and two Unryus in april '43 and another Unryu in June '43. that's another 260 planes.
Remember, this is scenario 2.
leaves you in an excellent position. Now the biggest fault Andy could make until 44 would be to end up near your combined carrier force (if you keep them together) as this then would again whipe out the couple of carriers he will get (not counting the CVEs though). And until then you will be in an excellent position to raid his lines with a "normal" sized KB as there´s nothing that could actually hurt you. Fuel consumption perhaps.
While I think the Allied hit rate is totally off, it was nevertheless a very well pulled off operation!
Well, now I just have to get my troops ashore at Suva.
also, I'm an idiot. Decided to send a raid in at Suva yesterday, and forgot to set my surface TF to retire
CL Kuma and 5 DD's down due to that. Luckily Kuma was old and 4 of the 5 destroyers were Wakatake class. We sank 4 APD's in return
In other news we sank CL Trenton and two british destroyers yesterday and probably CA Chicago and CA Canberra today
Andy however, managed to send a few DD's into my invasion fleet, they caused no damage themselves but caused 4 AP's to collide.. [:@]
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:38 am
by veji1
If you sunk his CVs, why invade ? Sounds like a silly question but wouldn't you use those troops better garrrisonning all those dots bases around the DEI and PNG and preparing your perimeter ? Now that he doesn't have many CVs, his main axis is likely to be India/Burma, how do you feel there ?
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:11 am
by String
ORIGINAL: veji1
If you sunk his CVs, why invade ? Sounds like a silly question but wouldn't you use those troops better garrrisonning all those dots bases around the DEI and PNG and preparing your perimeter ? Now that he doesn't have many CVs, his main axis is likely to be India/Burma, how do you feel there ?
I want to destroy his ground units and/or (if he saves cadres) deplete his squad and equipment pools.
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:41 am
by d0mbo
oh, this JFB is hooked

prospects for holding wel into 1945 are looking good!
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:27 am
by bklooste
Interesting your cap had almost 2:1 on his escorts that prob really stuffed up his aim , its interesting though that the Zeros dont chew through the allied bombers like they did at Midway.
Your escorts was greater than his cap so your planes were effected less..
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:48 am
by wpurdom
There's been a lot of discussion of the results of the Battle of Fiji. Do you and Andy still have the saved game from before the battle? If so, would you be willing to exchange information on the bombing accuracy figures of your respective squadrons. (I'm talking about the single figure on the left).Enquiring minds want to know.
Andy feels he is the victim of bad luck because so many of his planes "got through" and he got so few hits. But the majority or great majority (depending on how combat reports counts your planes that were damaged more than once) of his planes that 'got through' were shot up on the way in.