To make the long story short, I've asked my old opponent AndyMac for a new game. We've (well I have) chosen scenario 2 for that.
From this point on the AAR is restricted to Andy Mac.
String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
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String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Events so far:
I won't bother you with long and tedious combat reports so I'll just give short summaries about what has happened
PH: First strike went in pretty well, My guess is that we've managed to sink a BB or two. I decided to stay for a second day, and it was pretty painful. The allied managed to put up a decent cap, and although it was mauled by the escort, the cap managed to break through to the bombers and maul them in return. As a result the KB bomber groups are pretty depleted, some below 50% strenght. Not what a japanese player would like to see on turn 2.
Regardless, I've decided to route the KB to Truk, via Wake, where it'll support further ops in the South pacific. I might detach Kaga for the baby KB when she reaches Truk.
Pacific: Not much, the usual invasions of Makin and Tarawa. I've decided to postpone the wake invasion until the Guam support arrives to the scene and the KB can smash the CD units there.
PI: Captured Lingayen, Aparri and Vigan by paras, Andy sent a Bn to counterattack at Aparri but was repulsed. Legaspi delayed. Generally air attacks here have been successful, PI airforce has been reduced to about 50% strength atm. The british DD squadron from HK attacked and sank/damaged a few merchants at Takao, which I foolishly left unguarded. They were sunk in return by land based air.
I've detailed a few CL's and DD's to hunting down fleeing ships from HK.
Malaya: Pretty historic pattern here. PoW and Repulse got attacked, PoW probably has been sunk now (ate 3 sub torpedoes this turn), but Repulse only recieved two torps and was just on fire. Unless I get lucky with subs she'll survive. Captured Miri on the first turn, had my invasion fleet there attacked by british CL's and had a few DD's slightly damaged. Saigon shipyards estimate about 4-7 days for full repairs on all of them.
Meanwhile CL Durban and DD express were sunk by Nells from Saigon.
Rest of DEI: I'm heading for Menado and Singkawang right from the start, both locations will recieve an air HQ and plenty of air support to serve as Betty bases. Menado is only covered by the three CA's from Ryuho group, So if the allies manage to attack it might get iffy. I hope I get my troops ashore fast though.
Burma: A few inconsequential air attacks on Rangoon
China: Nothing special so far. I've decided to clear out southern China first, and then we'll see what happens. I'll try and clear the main rail line after that.
General strategic plans: Go for Singapore hard. At the same time attack on the Menado-Kendari-Makassar route, to get Java into pincers. After DEI is done, I'll try and get northern australia if possible.
In the pacific I won't move on the line islands, but I will try and capture the Solomons early on. 4th Division has been tasked with taking PM, with the support of KB.
PI is the lowest priority. I'll try to contain the allied troops and use air to supress them. Ann's and Sonias will be useful here.
In terms of shipbuilding I've halted all the subs atm and accelerated Hiyo, Junyo, Shoho and Ryuyo.
Any suggestions, comments and requests are ofcourse welcome.
I won't bother you with long and tedious combat reports so I'll just give short summaries about what has happened
PH: First strike went in pretty well, My guess is that we've managed to sink a BB or two. I decided to stay for a second day, and it was pretty painful. The allied managed to put up a decent cap, and although it was mauled by the escort, the cap managed to break through to the bombers and maul them in return. As a result the KB bomber groups are pretty depleted, some below 50% strenght. Not what a japanese player would like to see on turn 2.
Regardless, I've decided to route the KB to Truk, via Wake, where it'll support further ops in the South pacific. I might detach Kaga for the baby KB when she reaches Truk.
Pacific: Not much, the usual invasions of Makin and Tarawa. I've decided to postpone the wake invasion until the Guam support arrives to the scene and the KB can smash the CD units there.
PI: Captured Lingayen, Aparri and Vigan by paras, Andy sent a Bn to counterattack at Aparri but was repulsed. Legaspi delayed. Generally air attacks here have been successful, PI airforce has been reduced to about 50% strength atm. The british DD squadron from HK attacked and sank/damaged a few merchants at Takao, which I foolishly left unguarded. They were sunk in return by land based air.
I've detailed a few CL's and DD's to hunting down fleeing ships from HK.
Malaya: Pretty historic pattern here. PoW and Repulse got attacked, PoW probably has been sunk now (ate 3 sub torpedoes this turn), but Repulse only recieved two torps and was just on fire. Unless I get lucky with subs she'll survive. Captured Miri on the first turn, had my invasion fleet there attacked by british CL's and had a few DD's slightly damaged. Saigon shipyards estimate about 4-7 days for full repairs on all of them.
Meanwhile CL Durban and DD express were sunk by Nells from Saigon.
Rest of DEI: I'm heading for Menado and Singkawang right from the start, both locations will recieve an air HQ and plenty of air support to serve as Betty bases. Menado is only covered by the three CA's from Ryuho group, So if the allies manage to attack it might get iffy. I hope I get my troops ashore fast though.
Burma: A few inconsequential air attacks on Rangoon
China: Nothing special so far. I've decided to clear out southern China first, and then we'll see what happens. I'll try and clear the main rail line after that.
General strategic plans: Go for Singapore hard. At the same time attack on the Menado-Kendari-Makassar route, to get Java into pincers. After DEI is done, I'll try and get northern australia if possible.
In the pacific I won't move on the line islands, but I will try and capture the Solomons early on. 4th Division has been tasked with taking PM, with the support of KB.
PI is the lowest priority. I'll try to contain the allied troops and use air to supress them. Ann's and Sonias will be useful here.
In terms of shipbuilding I've halted all the subs atm and accelerated Hiyo, Junyo, Shoho and Ryuyo.
Any suggestions, comments and requests are ofcourse welcome.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
12/10/1941
Pacific:
American carrier planes attacked and sank the Tarawa invasion force. Troops had already landed and captured the island during the night. We started landing at Guam.
PI:
American and philipino troops, one Philippine army division and two tank regiments attacked our landing forces at Vigan and were mauled by the reinforcements that had landed at night. A counterattack by two of our tank batallions didn't achieve success. Yokosuma 3rd SNLF paratroopers captured Tuguegarao.
Our aircraft successfully swept Clark field and bombed Iba. One of our CL's intercepted an AKL west of Luzon and sank it
DEI: Our troops landed at Manado, we will attack tomorrow.
Singkawang invasion TF cover force, consisting of Kongo, Haruna and escorts, skirmished with three british destroyers and with no results during the night. We arrived and started our landings at Singkawang during the day and will attack tomorrow. Planes from Saigon are ready to fly in.
American submarines attacked an unescorted merchant convoy (empty) just south of Cam Ranh Bay, sinking two xAK's. Our submarines sank a tanker near sumatra in return.
China: Our troops arrived at Hong Kong, no major actions.
Burma: We attacked Rangoon and exchanged fire with an AVG squadron stationed there. Our zeroes swept it succesfuly, but the AVG fighters managed to break through to our bombers and down quite a few sallies and betties.
Pacific:
American carrier planes attacked and sank the Tarawa invasion force. Troops had already landed and captured the island during the night. We started landing at Guam.
PI:
American and philipino troops, one Philippine army division and two tank regiments attacked our landing forces at Vigan and were mauled by the reinforcements that had landed at night. A counterattack by two of our tank batallions didn't achieve success. Yokosuma 3rd SNLF paratroopers captured Tuguegarao.
Our aircraft successfully swept Clark field and bombed Iba. One of our CL's intercepted an AKL west of Luzon and sank it
DEI: Our troops landed at Manado, we will attack tomorrow.
Singkawang invasion TF cover force, consisting of Kongo, Haruna and escorts, skirmished with three british destroyers and with no results during the night. We arrived and started our landings at Singkawang during the day and will attack tomorrow. Planes from Saigon are ready to fly in.
American submarines attacked an unescorted merchant convoy (empty) just south of Cam Ranh Bay, sinking two xAK's. Our submarines sank a tanker near sumatra in return.
China: Our troops arrived at Hong Kong, no major actions.
Burma: We attacked Rangoon and exchanged fire with an AVG squadron stationed there. Our zeroes swept it succesfuly, but the AVG fighters managed to break through to our bombers and down quite a few sallies and betties.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
12/11/1941
I noticed I hadn't covered the last two turns before going on my holiday.
Pacific: Commander of CL Kashii decided to abandon the Manus landings, and when CL Adelaide arrived at the scene the light cruiser was already well on its way towards Truk. Luckily the old NZ cruiser only managed to damage an AKL.
Manus is then occupied without resistance during the day.
Landings at Guam continue, but the attack in the evening fails to make headway, 1 to 1 odds.
PI: Fighter sweeps and bombing raids on airfields continue to attrit the PI airforce, Nells torpedo DD Pillsbury at Manila harbour. Our troops at Aparri attack and manage to force the PI battalion there to surrender. 11th PI division is attacked and routed at Vigan.
DEI: KXI torpedoes DD Asashio at Singkawang, she suffers moderate damage. The covering force is also attacked by dutch MTB's, but after losing one of their numbers they retreat to Kuching and inflict no damage. Our subs sink an AK and a TK between Sumatra and Borneo.
Later in the afternoon Singkawang, Manado and Brunei are captured.
Singkawang already has an air HQ and Manado has one on the way.
Malaya: Nothing special, usual air attacks on allied airfields.
China: Last turn a chinese corps crossed a river at Ichang, suffering horrible casualties, we counterattacked this turn, only to find an additonal 6 corps and an HQ there. 1 to 2 odds, and almost 4k casualties for us, luckily mostly disablements.
I noticed I hadn't covered the last two turns before going on my holiday.
Pacific: Commander of CL Kashii decided to abandon the Manus landings, and when CL Adelaide arrived at the scene the light cruiser was already well on its way towards Truk. Luckily the old NZ cruiser only managed to damage an AKL.
Manus is then occupied without resistance during the day.
Landings at Guam continue, but the attack in the evening fails to make headway, 1 to 1 odds.
PI: Fighter sweeps and bombing raids on airfields continue to attrit the PI airforce, Nells torpedo DD Pillsbury at Manila harbour. Our troops at Aparri attack and manage to force the PI battalion there to surrender. 11th PI division is attacked and routed at Vigan.
DEI: KXI torpedoes DD Asashio at Singkawang, she suffers moderate damage. The covering force is also attacked by dutch MTB's, but after losing one of their numbers they retreat to Kuching and inflict no damage. Our subs sink an AK and a TK between Sumatra and Borneo.
Later in the afternoon Singkawang, Manado and Brunei are captured.
Singkawang already has an air HQ and Manado has one on the way.
Malaya: Nothing special, usual air attacks on allied airfields.
China: Last turn a chinese corps crossed a river at Ichang, suffering horrible casualties, we counterattacked this turn, only to find an additonal 6 corps and an HQ there. 1 to 2 odds, and almost 4k casualties for us, luckily mostly disablements.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
12/12/1941
Pacific: One of our short range subs attacks the escorts of an american carrier SW of Tarawa. Apparently they are moving towards Noumea/Solomons to contest our advance there. Attacks on Guam make some headway, 2 to 1 odds, forts reduced to 0.
PI: Usual air attacks on Luzon, the PI airforce offering less resistance each day. Only 7 fighters greeted us over Manila today.
In the Sulu sea our surface forces intercepted and sank an AK and an AKL. In return Vildebeests, operating from somwehere in the central PI, attacked and sank DD Natsugumo and damaged CL Naka with bombs.
South of Davao, our planes from Manado and the CVL group covering the landings there, sank or heavily damaged 5 AKL's, 2 AK's and a TK.
SS Pike puts two dents into I-158 with dud torpedoes.
An IJN platoon, transported by two TB's (that later sank an AK), captures TayTay.
Malaya: Usual air attacks.
DEI: Nothing special.
China: Our troops rout a chinese corps northeast of Hengchow. Some air attacks on chinese positions.
Pacific: One of our short range subs attacks the escorts of an american carrier SW of Tarawa. Apparently they are moving towards Noumea/Solomons to contest our advance there. Attacks on Guam make some headway, 2 to 1 odds, forts reduced to 0.
PI: Usual air attacks on Luzon, the PI airforce offering less resistance each day. Only 7 fighters greeted us over Manila today.
In the Sulu sea our surface forces intercepted and sank an AK and an AKL. In return Vildebeests, operating from somwehere in the central PI, attacked and sank DD Natsugumo and damaged CL Naka with bombs.
South of Davao, our planes from Manado and the CVL group covering the landings there, sank or heavily damaged 5 AKL's, 2 AK's and a TK.
SS Pike puts two dents into I-158 with dud torpedoes.
An IJN platoon, transported by two TB's (that later sank an AK), captures TayTay.
Malaya: Usual air attacks.
DEI: Nothing special.
China: Our troops rout a chinese corps northeast of Hengchow. Some air attacks on chinese positions.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
ORIGINAL: String
Pacific: Not much, the usual invasions of Makin and Tarawa. I've decided to postpone the wake invasion until the Guam support arrives to the scene and the KB can smash the CD units there.
String,
How do you target the CD units? Ground attack?
Baka wa shinanakya naoranai
Dog
Dog
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
ORIGINAL: witp1951
ORIGINAL: String
Pacific: Not much, the usual invasions of Makin and Tarawa. I've decided to postpone the wake invasion until the Guam support arrives to the scene and the KB can smash the CD units there.
String,
How do you target the CD units? Ground attack?
Unless it has been changed from Witp, port attack is the order to use. It will target CD guns and units as higher priority targets.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
It depicts the current situation and my short term future plans.
- Blue line is the situation at the start of the war
- Yellow line is the current frontline
- Red lines are the movements and attacks that have already taken place
- Black lines are planned invasions and attacks in the short term
- White lines are the ones I want to do if the situation permits.
As you can see, Hong Kong and Guam are under siege and they should fall soon, if my predictions are correct. We have taken northern Luzon, Borneo and captured Manado.
Singkawang and Manado are of special importance. Both are level 3 airfields (which will be built up to level 4 ASAP) and already have, or will have an air HQ shortly. In AE an air HQ is necessary to provide torpedoes, which are used by G4M1 Betties and G3M3 Nells. Those two engine level bombers, with A6M2 Zero escorts, can and will dominate the sea in a 10-14 hex radius, provided that enemy shipping is found by our search planes.
Zero escorts should be able to handle any fighter cover that the enemy can currently muster in this area.
This dominance means that in the west, Singapore will be isolated and Batavia will also be in range, meaning that any surface interdictions in these areas will be quite difficult.
In the east it means that the straits between Borneo and Celebes are now controllable, and that the invasions of Kendari and Ambon now have air cover. It is in this area that I fear the enemy surface ships to be most active, we currently have just one CVL and three heavy cruisers to cover invasions here. Battleships from home islands are on the way but rest of the light carriers are currently at Formosa (taiwan) and will cover the invasion of Jolo to finally and totally isolate the Philippines form the rest of the world.
My short term plans, as you can see, involve the capture of Malaya, and a push towards Kendari and Ambon. The first is necessary for further movement towards Sumatra/Java, the second is to prevent easy transfers of troops and aircraft between Java and Australia.
I've yet to finalise my plans on how to isolate Java from India. That would probably require my fleet carriers, which are currently tasked with
- Covering Wake invasion
- Moving full speed to Truk
- Covering Rabaul invasion
- Covering movements into Solomons
- Covering Port Moresby Invasion
This means that they probably wont' be available before February 1942.
I won't however conduct any major invasions in the pacific without the cover of my carriers, as american carriers can and will be used to interdict said invasions. Early capture of Port Moresby and Solomons is an easy way to protect my southern flank, so it is a necessity
I probably won't make any further moves into pacific before DEI is subdued.
I won't make any major moves towards Burma before I've taken Malaya.
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BeastieDog
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Hi String,
Nice map and I like your AAR style!
I've yet to finalise my plans on how to isolate Java from India.
Have you considered splitting up the KB for awhile?
Dog
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
ORIGINAL: BeastieDog
Hi String,
Nice map and I like your AAR style!
I've yet to finalise my plans on how to isolate Java from India.
Have you considered splitting up the KB for awhile?
Yeah, but I'm not too fond of that. Makes them vulnerable to allied carriers. I might reorganize it though, sending Kaga to baby KB, adding a CS or two for search and sending the BB's away for other assignments.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
I've been reading the various AAR's here and I've had a lot of time to think, and I've had an idea.
Hong Kong should fall easily, and after that I'll have significant forces available, most notably, the 38th divison and the 66th infantry regiment.
I also have an armour unit at Cam Ranh Bay, ready to load up + several support units at sea, currently tasked for Jolo, Manado and Ternate.
Manado has already been taken, Ternate is not essential and I feel that with Manado in my hands, Jolo is not necessary either. In fact, leaving the straits between Celebes and Borneo semi-open might lure him into there to try and run the gauntlet.
The plan is as follows. To gather up all of the units in a large convoy, move down under the cover of Baby-KB and take Kendari, Ambon and Lautem in a row, by that time KB should be back from the pacific, to cover the final move of the 38th division with the 66th inf regiment on Darwin. I should be able to gather atleast four battleships for bombardment support, which, along with a port strike from KB, should be able to suppress the CD there.
In a swift blow the threat to my southern flank would be eliminated.
Hong Kong should fall easily, and after that I'll have significant forces available, most notably, the 38th divison and the 66th infantry regiment.
I also have an armour unit at Cam Ranh Bay, ready to load up + several support units at sea, currently tasked for Jolo, Manado and Ternate.
Manado has already been taken, Ternate is not essential and I feel that with Manado in my hands, Jolo is not necessary either. In fact, leaving the straits between Celebes and Borneo semi-open might lure him into there to try and run the gauntlet.
The plan is as follows. To gather up all of the units in a large convoy, move down under the cover of Baby-KB and take Kendari, Ambon and Lautem in a row, by that time KB should be back from the pacific, to cover the final move of the 38th division with the 66th inf regiment on Darwin. I should be able to gather atleast four battleships for bombardment support, which, along with a port strike from KB, should be able to suppress the CD there.
In a swift blow the threat to my southern flank would be eliminated.
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
38th Division is a very good division ( 90 exp i think , 95 in scen 2) ...Should be easy
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BeastieDog
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
You might also consider taking Port Blair on the other side with Para, build up th AF and place some Betties and Zeroes. Along with Lautem this would extend his routes in and out of the DEI in either direction.
Dog
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Air HQ's are going to be a problem. I'm gonna have to figure that out when I get back to my PC.
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
Once you take Tavoy and Victoria Point, then Port Blair become important as a way to deny the Allies from getting their short legged fighters up to Burma/India from Malaya. Some objectives are more important to deny to the opponent than for your own use.
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BeastieDog
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
An agressive distribution of Air HQ:
5th Air Div to Phillippines
3rd Air Div to Malaya
22nd Air Flotilla to Singawang
23rd Air Flotilla to Manado
21st Air Flotilla to Port Blair
11th Air Fleet to Timor
24th Air Flotilla to Rabaul/PM
The 22nd can be moved to Sumatra to support the Java invasion and the 11th would be in position to support Darwin.
5th Air Div to Phillippines
3rd Air Div to Malaya
22nd Air Flotilla to Singawang
23rd Air Flotilla to Manado
21st Air Flotilla to Port Blair
11th Air Fleet to Timor
24th Air Flotilla to Rabaul/PM
The 22nd can be moved to Sumatra to support the Java invasion and the 11th would be in position to support Darwin.
Dog
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
ny59giants: A good idea. My paras are currently still on Formosa, so it'll take some time.
BeastieDog: Thankyou for the list. IIRC there is also an air HQ from Manchuria that I can buy out.
BeastieDog: Thankyou for the list. IIRC there is also an air HQ from Manchuria that I can buy out.
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BeastieDog
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RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
ORIGINAL: BeastieDog
An agressive distribution of Air HQ:
5th Air Div to Phillippines
3rd Air Div to Malaya
22nd Air Flotilla to Singawang
23rd Air Flotilla to Manado
21st Air Flotilla to Port Blair
11th Air Fleet to Timor
24th Air Flotilla to Rabaul/PM
The 22nd can be moved to Sumatra to support the Java invasion and the 11th would be in position to support Darwin.
I've reconsidered my list. Send the 21st Air Flotilla to Manado since most Takao air units report to the 23rd. Keep the 23rd and 11th until the Philipines is suppressed.
Dog
RE: String vs. Andy Mac - Futile attempts at world domination
12/13/1941
Pacific: After a preliminary bombardment by four heavy cruisers and the Kido Butai the 144th Infantry regiment lands on Wake. The Marines there stand no chances and the island is captured with minimal losses.
AM Penguin is sunk by planes from KB.
Battles on Guam are still ongoing.
PI: The enemy manages to sneak a PT-boat flotilla past our cruisers into Vigan anchorage and attacks the transport convoys there, sinking two escorting minesweepers.
One of the transports is later sunk by a submarine.
Our CL squadron intercepts and sinks an AKL in the Sulu sea.
DEI: Our planes and floatplanes from Manado, CVL Ryuho, and scout cruisers attack, damage and sink several merchantmen fleeing Manila. DD Thanet is also hit and sunk by carrier based bombers.
Betties from Manado also attack CL Java near Balikpapan but fail to hit it.
Singkawang is attacked by planes from Singapore, including 9 B-17D's, escorted by dutch fighters. Several of the dutch fighters are shot down, and the bombers cause little damage. Later a bunch of Buffaloes also turn up, probably escort that had separated from the bombers, and several are also shot down for no losses.
Allied air attack on Miri is turned back.
Ternate is captured
China: Our attack on Hong Kong achieved 1:1 odds and reduced forts to 2. We will continue tomorrow.
Hwaiyin is taken.
Pacific: After a preliminary bombardment by four heavy cruisers and the Kido Butai the 144th Infantry regiment lands on Wake. The Marines there stand no chances and the island is captured with minimal losses.
AM Penguin is sunk by planes from KB.
Battles on Guam are still ongoing.
PI: The enemy manages to sneak a PT-boat flotilla past our cruisers into Vigan anchorage and attacks the transport convoys there, sinking two escorting minesweepers.
One of the transports is later sunk by a submarine.
Our CL squadron intercepts and sinks an AKL in the Sulu sea.
DEI: Our planes and floatplanes from Manado, CVL Ryuho, and scout cruisers attack, damage and sink several merchantmen fleeing Manila. DD Thanet is also hit and sunk by carrier based bombers.
Betties from Manado also attack CL Java near Balikpapan but fail to hit it.
Singkawang is attacked by planes from Singapore, including 9 B-17D's, escorted by dutch fighters. Several of the dutch fighters are shot down, and the bombers cause little damage. Later a bunch of Buffaloes also turn up, probably escort that had separated from the bombers, and several are also shot down for no losses.
Allied air attack on Miri is turned back.
Ternate is captured
China: Our attack on Hong Kong achieved 1:1 odds and reduced forts to 2. We will continue tomorrow.
Hwaiyin is taken.
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