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Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:50 pm
by Cavalry Corp
Sent three small MSW to sweep Lunga , net result all instantly sunk by the CD guns

So this is the same as WITP, automatic detection , at night three small ships - all sunk

Cav

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm
by Nikademus
Kind of like Galipoli. Very unsporting for the CD batteries to fire on those lowly minesweepers. All they want to do is clear away your defenses! [:D]

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:23 pm
by Cavalry Corp
Thats ok but these ships are not firing at the shore and are small, they should at least get detected DL of some sort

BUT should I expect them to all be sunk everytime and what is the counter solution. It would be a bit wrong to say put a BB there to absorb the fire.

Cav

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:53 pm
by Mike Solli
Keep in mind that in AE, the minesweepers (not the coastal minesweepers) will sweep the hex they are in as well as the 6 surrounding hexes.  Try moving the minesweepers to a hex adjacent to Lunga.

Edit:

AM = Minesweeper - sweeps 7 hexes
AMc = Coastal minesweeper - sweeps 1 hex

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:59 pm
by Mike Solli
Pgs. 136-7 in the manual:
 
6.6.2.1.1 MINESWEEPING.
Regular minesweeping TFs may be created both by a player and by the AI. When the AI
creates a Minesweeping TF, it may only include ships of a valid Minesweeping class. Regular
minesweeping TFs sweep 7 hexes; the hex they are in and the six surrounding hexes.

6.6.2.1.2. LOCAL MINESWEEPING.
Local minesweeping TFs may be created both by a player and by the AI. When the AI creates a
Local Minesweeping TF, it may only include ships of a valid ‘Local Minesweeping ‘ class. Local
minesweeping TFs sweep only 1 hex, the DH. The AI will position Local Minesweeping TFs to
defend it’s major ports, if ships are available.

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:40 pm
by FOW
See this thread

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RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:33 pm
by Cavalry Corp
OH ok and much thanks

Cav

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:46 pm
by rubisco
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Pgs. 136-7 in the manual:

6.6.2.1.1 MINESWEEPING.
Regular minesweeping TFs may be created both by a player and by the AI. When the AI
creates a Minesweeping TF, it may only include ships of a valid Minesweeping class. Regular
minesweeping TFs sweep 7 hexes; the hex they are in and the six surrounding hexes.

6.6.2.1.2. LOCAL MINESWEEPING.
Local minesweeping TFs may be created both by a player and by the AI. When the AI creates a
Local Minesweeping TF, it may only include ships of a valid ‘Local Minesweeping ‘ class. Local
minesweeping TFs sweep only 1 hex, the DH. The AI will position Local Minesweeping TFs to
defend it’s major ports, if ships are available.

Thanks! I'd missed this.

RE: Mine clearing enemy bases - All MSW get sunk by CD guns

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:00 pm
by DaveP
Mike,

Being one hex away does not help. If you try and sweep the mines from one hex away, the CD will still fire and wipe out your minesweepers.