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Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:22 pm
by Avenger
I have played my opening several times and I can get to the outskirts of Riga with ease, sometimes with several movement points (Seven MP I think), but I seem unable to attack. Is it possible to attack and capture Riga on the opening turn?

RE: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:27 pm
by Flaviusx
Riga is difficult, if not impossible to take on turn 1. You'd have to cross the major river with an entire panzer corps and take your chances on a hasty attack on it from the rear is my guess.

It might be better to simply wait for AGN infantry to get there and grab the place later on. Riga is a dead end strategically and there's better places for Panzer Group 4 to establish a bridgehead across the Dvina with objectives like Pskov and ultimately Leningrad in mind.

RE: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:10 pm
by Northern Star
ORIGINAL: Avenger

I have played my opening several times and I can get to the outskirts of Riga with ease, sometimes with several movement points (Seven MP I think), but I seem unable to attack. Is it possible to attack and capture Riga on the opening turn?


You can take Riga easily on turn 1, you only need to cross the major river [:)]

RE: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:24 pm
by Dr. Foo
Don't bother trying to take Riga on the first turn you'll just have Pz too far from supply. I took it on the second turn and it was undefended, same thing with MinskĀ I outflanked the Soviet units on turn one and had the 7th Pz Div in Minsk with the XXXIX Pz Corps close behind on turn 2.

Is that typical? I can understand forces fleeing Riga but I expected at least some speed bumps in and around Minsk some units were to the West but nothing was in Minsk.

RE: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:32 pm
by ComradeP
Sometimes the AI heavily defends cities, sometimes it doesn't. In a challenging test vs the Soviet AI, the AI had placed 40 divisions in Leningrad and surrounding hexes.

Re: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:35 am
by Germanspeaker
It is possible. Either with the 36th mot and 6th tanks or with the totenkopf, add to the XXXXI Corp. Add pioneers and flak, and it should be possible to break into the city. I have played Road to Leningrad several times and recommend using very few mot units near Riga. The majority should cross the river at Daugavpils.

Re: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:45 pm
by Zovs
Germanspeaker wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:35 am It is possible. Either with the 36th mot and 6th tanks or with the totenkopf, add to the XXXXI Corp. Add pioneers and flak, and it should be possible to break into the city. I have played Road to Leningrad several times and recommend using very few mot units near Riga. The majority should cross the river at Daugavpils.
Just an FYI, you do realize you are resurrecting a necro 15 year old thread?

Most likely folks have moved on to other games and or WITE2, so don't expect much of a response here.

Re: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:05 am
by BrianG
Riga can be taken on turn one without worries.

Use only infantry to break open wide holes. Tanks can advance to far side of the river. I've seen 1 tank div take it with support multiple times.

I use 2 in a hasty b/c one time in my ancient past i failed with 1.

Re: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:41 am
by bairdlander2
Zovs wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:45 pm
Germanspeaker wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:35 am It is possible. Either with the 36th mot and 6th tanks or with the totenkopf, add to the XXXXI Corp. Add pioneers and flak, and it should be possible to break into the city. I have played Road to Leningrad several times and recommend using very few mot units near Riga. The majority should cross the river at Daugavpils.
Just an FYI, you do realize you are resurrecting a necro 15 year old thread?

Most likely folks have moved on to other games and or WITE2, so don't expect much of a response here.
The OP has not been here on forums since December 8 2011 :lol: Hope he is still alive

Re: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:40 am
by EwaldvonKleist
Zovs wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:45 pm
Germanspeaker wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:35 am It is possible. Either with the 36th mot and 6th tanks or with the totenkopf, add to the XXXXI Corp. Add pioneers and flak, and it should be possible to break into the city. I have played Road to Leningrad several times and recommend using very few mot units near Riga. The majority should cross the river at Daugavpils.
Just an FYI, you do realize you are resurrecting a necro 15 year old thread?

Most likely folks have moved on to other games and or WITE2, so don't expect much of a response here.
Expert necromancer here :D

But how do you even find this old thread lol

Re: Big Campaign. Riga on turn 1

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:51 am
by EwaldvonKleist
BrianG wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:05 am Riga can be taken on turn one without worries.

Use only infantry to break open wide holes. Tanks can advance to far side of the river. I've seen 1 tank div take it with support multiple times.

I use 2 in a hasty b/c one time in my ancient past i failed with 1.
You can get good odds at Riga with 1 if you optimise preparation.
E.g. fresh air power, only add pioneers right before attack for zero fatigue (assign them first, then move HQs closer), move army and army group HQs close etc.
Makes turn sequencing very complex but is worth it IMHO since you then can position one Panzer div for a better T2 push instead of having it sit around in Riga.

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