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MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:56 pm
by Orm
I need not much of a reason to post pictures from MWIF. This time I post it because I thought that one of the forum members here would appreciate the thrashing the German ships got in this battle.
Or maybe I just post this because I expected this to be a battle in the North Sea between Axis land based air and Brittish carriers in the North Sea or between the German fleet and unlucky CW convoys.
Anyway...
Early october 1939. German Fleet tries to break out into the Atlantic. The main CW fleet with 6 battleships and 3 carriers in the North Sea fails to find the German Fleet. Now only HMS Warspite is between the German fleet and the CW convoys in the Atlantic and she sails to intercept.
Here is a picture of the result of the first engagement in the Faraoes Gap and Warspite ponders on whether to press the attack or not.

RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:22 pm
by warspite1
That's my girl!!
I think I know what Captain Crutchley will do here - press ahead with the attack and finish off those remaining German ships [;)]
"come on Lutjens - if you think your hard enough!"
[:)] thanks Orm.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:44 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
That's my girl!!
I think I know what Captain Crutchley will do here - press ahead with the attack and finish off those remaining German ships [;)]
"come on Lutjens - if you think your hard enough!"
[:)] thanks Orm.
I thought you would appreciate it. [:)]
I actually pressed on the attack just to see what would happen but both sides failed to find so Warspite aborted to port to repair the damage. So did the Germans with the tail between their legs.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:55 pm
by undercovergeek
forgive me - is this beta or an old version?
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:05 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
forgive me - is this beta or an old version?
Warspite1
This is the latest version.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:49 pm
by paulderynck
but it is in beta test...
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:00 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
forgive me - is this beta or an old version?
There is a toggle switch which lets you see the section boxes for the units instead of the damage. That would be important knowledge for making the decision whether to stay or abort.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:13 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
forgive me - is this beta or an old version?
Here is a current screen shot for choosing naval combats. This shows the ability to resize the Select Naval Combat form horizontally to see more units (the defulat width to 1024 wide monitors stops after the Help button).
It also shows how the units look on the map (insert map in lower left hand corner) and on the Naval Review Details form. The latter gives you a better understanding of what the carrier air units are all about.
Note that there are many filters and check boxes on these forms. For instance, the NRD lets you change from the 'Nothing' setting for the lists of units to showing their status indicators (e.g., damaged, disorganized) and/or their section box.
Moving the cursor over a unit instantiates the UnitData panel for the form, as shown for the CA Chikuma.

RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:06 am
by Extraneous
Why do the Netherland ships have "NED" on them?
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:33 am
by warspite1
Not sure. In the ADG game the units have just Ne. But as the Dutch spell their country Nederland, I guess its not an issue.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:53 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
Why do the Netherland ships have "NED" on them?
We are using a standard 3 letter abbreviation on all units belonging to minor countries (that includes all Commonwealth members nations except the United Kingdom).
I forget precisely which abbreviation set we chose but it was one that is internationally accepted - it is not period WW II though.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:24 am
by undercovergeek
having tried my hand at a 'vassal-y' type game with Jdenver and getting totally lost in the rules without ever having played the game - will the game on release assume you know the rules, or will the UI you stop you and say, unit cant go there, remember in mountains your range is blah blah blah?
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:38 am
by michaelbaldur
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
having tried my hand at a 'vassal-y' type game with Jdenver and getting totally lost in the rules without ever having played the game - will the game on release assume you know the rules, or will the UI you stop you and say, unit cant go there, remember in mountains your range is blah blah blah?
I always say: WIF is easy to learn, but impossible to Master.
and yes the game will stop you making illegal moves
but for the learning of the game ... I would download the rules ... and start learning them now ..so you are ready for the game ..
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:08 am
by Extraneous
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NED
Definitions for the acronym “NED”:
Netherlands
National Endowment for Democracy (also seen as NEFD)
National Elevation Dataset (USGS)
Non-Executive Director
NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database
No Evidence of Disease
New Editor
National Economic Development
New Era Dianetics (by L. Ron Hubbard)
Nano Emissive Display
New English Dictionary
New England District (USACE)
No Expiration Date (coupons)
Non Educated Delinquent
Non-Educated Delinquent (Scotland)
Notice of Election and Demand (Foreclosure)
Nuclear Engineering Department
Network Enterprise Domain (JTRS)
North East Down
Northern Electricity Department (Ghana)
Nuclear Engineering Division (American Society of Mechanical Engineers)
Nuclear Event Detector
National Enrollment Database
Nadirshaw Edulji Dinshaw (University of Engineering and Technology Karachi, Pakistan)
NATO Effective Date
Normalized Euclidian Distance
Neuroendocrine Disruption
National Examination Data
Nuclear Effects Directorate
Noble Engineering & Development
NetView - DECnet Interface
NVidia Experimental Driver
Nadir Edulgee Dinshaw (University of Engineering and Technology, Karachi)
Network Engineering Document
Network Equipment Databasing
Search links for “Ned Navy”:
Ned's Navy Published March 1998 by Airlife Publishing Ltd.
Ned the Navy Gnome
There are more of a less savory nature.
Why didn’t you just use
The World Atlas Country Codes? At least “NLD Navy” pulls up “NLD Dutch Navy” when you search.
What did you use for Siam’s acronym? I bet it was THI.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:58 pm
by Sewerlobster
Isn't the Dutch word for Netherlands: Nederland? That'd make NED pretty reasonable.
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:54 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
What did you use for Siam’s acronym? I bet it was THI.

RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:12 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
There are 248 named 'countries' in MWIF. Section 11 (Appendices) of the Players Manual lists them all. Here is the first page.

RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:19 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish
Isn't the Dutch word for Netherlands: Nederland? That'd make NED pretty reasonable.
Warspite1
Please see post #10
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:34 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NED
Definitions for the acronym “NED”:
Netherlands
National Endowment for Democracy (also seen as NEFD)
National Elevation Dataset (USGS)
Non-Executive Director
NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database
No Evidence of Disease
New Editor
National Economic Development
New Era Dianetics (by L. Ron Hubbard)
Nano Emissive Display
New English Dictionary
New England District (USACE)
No Expiration Date (coupons)
Non Educated Delinquent
Non-Educated Delinquent (Scotland)
Notice of Election and Demand (Foreclosure)
Nuclear Engineering Department
Network Enterprise Domain (JTRS)
North East Down
Northern Electricity Department (Ghana)
Nuclear Engineering Division (American Society of Mechanical Engineers)
Nuclear Event Detector
National Enrollment Database
Nadirshaw Edulji Dinshaw (University of Engineering and Technology Karachi, Pakistan)
NATO Effective Date
Normalized Euclidian Distance
Neuroendocrine Disruption
National Examination Data
Nuclear Effects Directorate
Noble Engineering & Development
NetView - DECnet Interface
NVidia Experimental Driver
Nadir Edulgee Dinshaw (University of Engineering and Technology, Karachi)
Network Engineering Document
Network Equipment Databasing
Warspite1
Extraneous, why have you posted this? Are you concerned that with the current abbreviation in place i.e. NED, someone will look at De Ruyter's counter and think "my god this ship is a Nuclear Event Detector". or that Tromp has suffered Neuroendocrine Disruption? [;)]
RE: MWIF pictures
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:15 pm
by Extraneous
Nederland is the Dutch name for the Netherlands and the short name for the Kingdom of the Netherlands. It is also the name of several villages:
Nederland, Overijssel, in Steenwijkerland, Netherlands
Nederland, Colorado, United States
Nederland, Texas, United States
I posted it because it seems odd to avoid an acronym found in an atlas for an obscure acronym. It is not a big deal to me if that’s the way you want to do it.
But you might note that I previously brought up my missgivings about acronyms for minor countries.