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Help in amphib TF composition.

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:58 pm
by cantona2
How can I use the barges the allies can create to help unloading an amphibious task force? I have tried to transfer the LCVP's etc into the amphibious transport but I cant. Does their mere presence in the same hex as the unloading TF grant the unloading bonus?

Thanks

RE: Help in amphib TF composition.

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:06 pm
by GreyJoy
AFAIK allied barges don't give any bonus and they can only be used in dedicated TFs...
 
The landing vessels that give bonus are (afaik) LCIs, LCI(G), LST, APA, AKA, LSD, LVM, LSM...only once they are empty...
 
Considering the small capacity of the LCIs i always keep them empty and add them to the amph TF once it's fully loaded...so they will help it with their bonus since the first landing phase and will be helped in their helping task by the rest of the landing vessels once they are empty...
 
 

RE: Help in amphib TF composition.

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:22 pm
by cantona2
Thanks GJ. So LCVPs and LCM's do not give any bonus at all then?

RE: Help in amphib TF composition.

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:39 pm
by jeffk3510
There is an entire section of the manual that is dedicated to this with exact unload values... it is very helpful.. I am at work, and do not know the page numbers...

RE: Help in amphib TF composition.

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:53 am
by CT Grognard
OVER THE BEACH:
 
Beaching craft (LCI, LSM, LCT, LCVP): Unload completely in one turn.
APA/AKA, LSD, LSV and British equivalents in Amphibious TFs: Unload at a rate of 3000 points per ship, per turn.
Naval transports (AP/AK) in Amphibious TFs: Unload at a rate of 600 points per ship, per turn.
Merchant transports (xAP/xAK) in Amphibious TFs: Unload at a rate of 250 points per ship, per turn.
 
FRIENDLY PORT (SIZE 4 OR LESS, DOCKED):
 
Beaching Craft, APA/AKA, LSD, LSV etc: Unload troops at a rate of 1000 points per ship per turn, cargo at 750 points per ship per turn.
Naval transports: Unload troops at rate of 300 points per ship per turn, cargo at rate of 300 points per ship per turn.
Merchant ships: Unload troops at rate of 125 points per ship per turn, cargo at rate of 125 points per ship per turn.
 
 

RE: Help in amphib TF composition.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:19 pm
by Hemajor
You can also use them as a task force themself. The barges have a troop/cargo capacity that can be used. They unload in one turn!
When you have small numbers of barges you can put small units on them. I often use them for tank battalions or SeeBees perhaps base forces. You can also use them when landing a marine division. It takes a lot. Or you can divide the division in three regiments and load one on barges, one on APAs and one on other ships/crafts.
One thing you have to notice is that barges are short legged so they have to be nursed by other TFs (follow them).