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Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:59 pm
by Lokasenna
A discussion video by the Military History Visualized guy and somebody else, I think, on the evolution of naval thinking with regards to the inclusion of the aircraft carrier in the fleet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1iE533R7vQ

Also worth watching just for the German accent.

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:18 pm
by adarbrauner
What's the beatiful simulator? Not War thunder....

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:25 pm
by Lokasenna
I'm pretty sure it's IL-2, which is (sadly, even though it appears to be a solid game) the most recent air combat simulator available.

It is very mod-friendly, which probably explains its longevity.

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:50 am
by adarbrauner
Il 2 is probably the best.

Didn't know though that they could simulate even ships and naval attack.

The attacked ships though are not performing evasive manouvres.

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:27 am
by tomamars
Military History Visualized is great YouTube channel and the guy really knows his stuff. I think he was in Austrian army or something. Somebody should get him into WITP AE, he could be really interested in this kind of simulation and also help expand our community little bit more by doing some of his great videos on it...

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:35 am
by Jorge_Stanbury
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I'm pretty sure it's IL-2, which is (sadly, even though it appears to be a solid game) the most recent air combat simulator available.

It is very mod-friendly, which probably explains its longevity.

No, there has been additional development
the video looks like it is from IL-2 1946, the oldest one of the franchise still playable.

afterwards they got:
- IL-2 Cliff of Dover --> still active and very competitive after modding (initial game was buggy)
- IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad, Moscow and Kuban --> the latest development, Kuban map is really pretty and it has decent naval bombing missions. They are using this Kuban map as a testbed for the next game which is in development "IL-2 Battle of Midway"

Their main competitor on the hardcore simulation market is "DCS", a game mostly focused on modern planes, however they have recently launched a Normandy 1944 map, which comes handy for their WW2 models available (P-51, Spitfire, BF-109K, FW-190)

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:44 pm
by Yaab
"IL-2 Battle of Midway"?

Gee, that's what the Soviet activation gets you.

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:12 pm
by verdugo94
Interesting thanks for sharing

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:25 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
ORIGINAL: Yaab

"IL-2 Battle of Midway"?

Gee, that's what the Soviet activation gets you.

lol, no [:D]

IL-2 is now a very well known brand, so even when they released "Cliff of Dover" years ago, with 1940s British and German/ Italian planes, it was still called IL-2...

same will happen with Battle of Midway. As far as I know they will try to model 3 planes for each side (Zero, Kate, Val, Wildcat, Dauntless, don't know which TB they will model).

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:13 pm
by adarbrauner
Do u really think Yaab didn't know that??!?

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:19 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Yaab

"IL-2 Battle of Midway"?

Gee, that's what the Soviet activation gets you.

Seems all too plausible to me.

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:08 am
by LeeChard
A very good analysis. Well Done. Thanks

RE: Semi-OT: Why CVs were not the no-brainer choice in the 1920s and 1930s

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:32 pm
by adarbrauner
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Yaab

"IL-2 Battle of Midway"?

Gee, that's what the Soviet activation gets you.

Seems all too plausible to me.

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