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How is colonization not always doomed to this?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:49 am
by mordachai
Not sure what the thinking is behind the current design of colonization?

but - you've got it setup so that this is 100% inevitable, and... that just seems dumb. :(

Sorry to be blunt about it - but this algo just doesn't account for nearly enough - it just grabs a pile of people - of some race that is acceptable to one or more colonization targets - and then has to unload colonists (which takes forever) because by randomly grabbing a population w/o respect for how many ships are needed with that race - you're doomed to do exactly that: get the wrong race, and have to redo it.

And in an unlucky situation, you could then have a pathological case:
10 ships grab all one race
1 goes to target...
9 unload
9 grab all of 2nd race needed...
1 goes to target...
8 have to unload
8 grab all of 3rd race needed...
1 goes to target...
7 have to unload...
etc.

Until you rethink this algo so that you account for who is going where ahead of time, you're totally doomed to repeat this blundergarten.

Here's a current example. There are 2 worlds that call for Ackdarians. But 4 are being loaded (so far). 2 will inevitably have to unload them pointlessly again shortly... and there's just no reason for this other than "cause we say so..." :(
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Re: How is colonization not always doomed to this?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:55 am
by mordachai
In case it isn't obvious - here's the same game shortly later - and as should be obvious - many colonizers are now unloading - more have the wrong races and will need to unload shortly - and some are still loading the wrong race - and will have to unload those in a while.

Very inefficient.
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Re: How is colonization not always doomed to this?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:18 pm
by maggiecow
Are you using the latest Beta? I don't think I've ever seen these problems, but I've only been playing the Betas since starting to play again, after ditching the game in March.

Re: How is colonization not always doomed to this?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:39 pm
by mordachai
maggiecow wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:18 pm Are you using the latest Beta? I don't think I've ever seen these problems, but I've only been playing the Betas since starting to play again, after ditching the game in March.
Yeah. 1.0.5.6. I always play the latest beta. I've found and reported a great many bugs.

This is less bug and more "the design is insufficient."