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cp oiling

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:30 pm
by jjdenver
We have a situation using 4.2.3.2 where some cp's can't be oiled. Specifically they are in Adelaide and have a chain of cp's CW + FF running to Mexico Coast then by rail through Mexico/USA to Canada oil. The oil screen doesn't show them as units that are available to oil (reorg).

Is this a rules problem? A bug? Something else?
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Re: cp oiling

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:07 am
by Courtenay
Is the US active or neutral? If it is neutral, this is correct. You have to be able to trace a supply line of infinite length, and you can't trace supply through neutral countries (except for special rules for Germany through Sweden). You can transport resources and build points through neutral minor countries and neutral major powers on your side, but you can't trace supply. (Mexico is irrelevant. San Diego touches the Mexican Coast.)

Re: cp oiling

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:23 am
by jjdenver
US is neutral. I guess that explains it. Ty. :)

Re: cp oiling

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:55 pm
by Joseignacio
Yoi dont need to go to Mexico and USA to get your oil. Unless the enemy is blocking the routes you can access you oil anywhere in the map, whether you have convs in a line till there or not.

So if the Japanese havent blocked all the southern seas leading to Europe around Africa and South America, you should be able to refuel.

Unfortunately there are some of this bugs at times.

Re: cp oiling

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:27 pm
by Centuur
Joseignacio wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:55 pm Yoi dont need to go to Mexico and USA to get your oil. Unless the enemy is blocking the routes you can access you oil anywhere in the map, whether you have convs in a line till there or not.

So if the Japanese havent blocked all the southern seas leading to Europe around Africa and South America, you should be able to refuel.

Unfortunately there are some of this bugs at times.
RAW:

SiF option 11: (limited overseas supply) You can only trace a
supply path overseas if each sea area you trace it through contains a
friendly convoy, TRS or AMPH.


I believe they are playing with this optional rule. No bug.

Re: cp oiling

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:31 pm
by Joseignacio
In that case, you are right.