Q-Ball wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 1:28 pm
The problem is that it's in the TOE of many units from 8/41, including all Sep. Tank Regts and Tank Brigades. You can't build those units to full strength without them, which can have an impact on UNREADY status
There is an Tank Brigade TOE in game which gets 64 of those T-60 into the TOE (09/41), but the TOE was rather quickly amended to only contain 32, in game it is 38 (TOE 10/41), not sure why (Soviet accounting leaves 6 tanks open [67-22(T-34)-32(T-60)-7(KV)=6 left]...). Due to how the 09/41 - 10/41TOEs change you end up with several turns of missing tanks/lower TOEs, that's true.
http://tankfront.ru/ussr/organisation/org_tbr.html wrote:On August 23, 1941, a resolution of GKO instead of tank divisions began the formation of individual tank brigades. In the state No. 010/75-010/83, it consisted of a tank regiment of a three-captain, a motorized rifle battalion and four separate companies. Of the state of 93 tanks, 22 were thirty -four. However,
on September 13, 1941, by order of the NPO of the USSR No. 0354, a new state No. 010/87 of the tank brigade was introduced, according to which the tank regiment consisted of two battalions, and the number of tanks was reduced to 67 due to light tanks, while the T-34 number remained the same.
Not sure about the "separate regiments" if that's alright, the page I quoted says regiments (separate) were set up only from 09/1942, so there must be something more about it, I do nto have the knowledge to speak on that.
Q-Ball wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 1:28 pm
It's been a few years, but I do recall that the engine will substitute LIGHT/AMPHIB/CAV tanks if not enough RECON are available; do I remember that correctly, or am I wrong there?
The Recon Tanks like the T-60 get substituted by
#1: Amphibious Tank
#2: Light Tank
Q-Ball wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 1:28 pm
In general, what happens to the LIGHT and CAV tanks once all the Mech and Tank Divs disband (which are the last units that really call for those types)?
Generally Soviets just switched from Divisions to Brigades for their mot/mech/arm units. Those Brigades then were combined into Corps (often). So you will still have a need for them.
TOEs and the amount of tanks in those TOEs that include (I hope my spreadsheet-automation for searching such info works correct
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Soviet Cavalry Tanks (BT-2,7,5):
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2096 41a Tank Division 26
2097 41b Tank Division 9 62
2205 41 Mechanized Division 244
2229 41a Cavalry Division 32
2235 41 Mountain Cavalry Division 16
2378 41a NKVD Motorized Rifle Division 33
Soviet Light Tanks (T-26, T-50):
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2096 41a Tank Division 22
2097 41b Tank Division 62
2166 41 Mixed Light Tank Battalion 27
2200 41 Motorized Rifle Division 54
2344 41b Far East Rifle Division 54
2345 41c Far East Rifle Division 18
2365 41 8th Hanko Rifle Brigade 16
2379 41b NKVD Motorized Rifle Division 40
Soviet Recon Tanks (T-60, T-70, Stuart) are:
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2081 42 Guards Tank Corps
2081 42 Guards Tank Corps 63
2082 43a Guards Tank Corps 63
2086 42a Tank Corps 60
2087 42b Tank Corps 63
2088 43a Tank Corps 63
2093 42b LL Tank Corps 48
2099 41a Tank Brigade 64
2100 41b Tank Brigade 38
2101 42a Tank Brigade 16
2102 42b Tank Brigade 21
2103 43a Tank Brigade 21
2106 42a British LL Tank Brigade 16
2109 42a American LL Tank Brigade 16
2110 42b American LL Tank Brigade 21
2111 43a American LL Tank Brigade 21
2121 44 Light SU Brigade 3
2135 41 Separate Tank Regiment 31
2136 42 Separate Tank Regiment 16
2137 43 Separate Tank Regiment 7
2161 41 Separate Tank Battalion 20
2162 42 Separate Tank Battalion 20
2163 43 Separate Tank Battalion 10
2181 42 Guards Mechanized Corps 69
2182 43 Guards Mechanized Corps 42
2183 44 Guards Mechanized Corps 21
2189 42 Mechanized Corps 69
2190 43 Mechanized Corps 42
2191 44 Mechanized Corps 21
2202 42 Mechanized Brigade 16
2203 43 Mechanized Brigade 7
2216 42 Guards Cavalry Corps 30
2217 43 Guards Cavalry Corps 21
2221 42 Cavalry Corps 30
2222 43 Cavalry Corps 21
2226 42 Guards Cavalry Division 10
2227 43 Guards Cavalry Division 7
2232 42 Cavalry Division 10
2233 43 Cavalry Division 7
2242 42 Motorcycle Regiment 3
Q-Ball wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 1:28 pm
T-26 and BTs aren't anything special either and also die in droves, but at least the 45mm gun has a chance to take something out before the crew goes to the Socialist Paradise in the sky
All Soviet Tanks die in droves, somehow you have to lose ~20k each year or your garages will be full.