Ballistic Version of Rampage has no Guidance
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:46 pm
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The infrared seeker apparently is missing.In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.
OVERVIEW: The Rampage aka MARS is a long-range, solid-fuel, supersonic, air-to-ground, precision strike weapon, using GPS/INS guidance and an IIR seeker. It is with a 150 kg warhead.
DETAILS: The Rampage is intended for use in attacking high-value, well-protected targets at standoff range. It is an autonomous, stand-off weapon, capable of making quick response, precision strikes using either a pre-programmed or in-flight programed mission profile.
After launch, the missile us guided by INS and satellite. In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.
Specifications:
Weight: 570 kg
Length: 4.7 m
Diameter: 0.306 m
Wingspan: ??m
Speed: 1069 knts (1980 km/hr)(M 1.6)
Range: 81-135 nm
CEP: 10.0 meters.
NOTES: IOC 2019. Used by Israel and India. Under consideration by RAF as a cheaper alternative to Storm Shadow.
SOURCES: IAI. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://www.iai.co.il/p/rampage ; Elbit Systems. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://elbitsystems.com/product/rampage/.
This is a GPS/INS weapons so its not homing on the target but the targets coordinates. The behavior is correct. I haven't seen any reference mention IIR and it doesn't look like its IIR. Elbit doesn't mention IIR. Google Gemini does but the sources is somewhat murky.Nikel wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:01 am In the description it is said that:
The infrared seeker apparently is missing.In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.
Full description.
OVERVIEW: The Rampage aka MARS is a long-range, solid-fuel, supersonic, air-to-ground, precision strike weapon, using GPS/INS guidance and an IIR seeker. It is with a 150 kg warhead.
DETAILS: The Rampage is intended for use in attacking high-value, well-protected targets at standoff range. It is an autonomous, stand-off weapon, capable of making quick response, precision strikes using either a pre-programmed or in-flight programed mission profile.
After launch, the missile us guided by INS and satellite. In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.
Specifications:
Weight: 570 kg
Length: 4.7 m
Diameter: 0.306 m
Wingspan: ??m
Speed: 1069 knts (1980 km/hr)(M 1.6)
Range: 81-135 nm
CEP: 10.0 meters.
NOTES: IOC 2019. Used by Israel and India. Under consideration by RAF as a cheaper alternative to Storm Shadow.
SOURCES: IAI. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://www.iai.co.il/p/rampage ; Elbit Systems. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://elbitsystems.com/product/rampage/.
BDukes wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:39 am
This is a GPS/INS weapons so its not homing on the target but the targets coordinates. The behavior is correct. I haven't seen any reference mention IIR and it doesn't look like its IIR. Elbit doesn't mention IIR. Google Gemini does but the sources is somewhat murky.
https://www.elbitsystems.com/air-space/ ... ts/rampage
Yeah, I don't think the description file is up to date.Nikel wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:58 amBDukes wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:39 am
This is a GPS/INS weapons so its not homing on the target but the targets coordinates. The behavior is correct. I haven't seen any reference mention IIR and it doesn't look like its IIR. Elbit doesn't mention IIR. Google Gemini does but the sources is somewhat murky.
https://www.elbitsystems.com/air-space/ ... ts/rampage
Then the description is wrong?
In the valid targets are listed ships and mobile units, should they be removed and the only valid should be not moving land structures? In the link you posted all the targets seem to be land and static.
Janes, now lost piece, saved in the web archive site, not pure ballisticWho knows.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180818021 ... ce-missile
Something is going on nevertheless, because is missing a lot even on radars.
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It would not, however, be well suited for use against warships, or other moving targets, maritime or otherwise.