Ballistic Version of Rampage has no Guidance

[DWReese]

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[DWReese]

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If you look from a distance, then it appears that the missiles are about to strike the ship. But, if you zoom in, then you will see that the ship is motoring full speed away from where it was when the missiles were launched. The missiles don't turn on any type of radar, and make no course change, and MISS the ship because it is no longer where it was when they were fired.

The data indicates that it should be receiving GPS and satellite guidance, if I am reading it correctly. In any case, it is acting just like a ballistic missile targeting a non-moving building.

Is this WAD, or is something missing from the guidance?

I am using 1728.2, and db 513

Ignore all of the other units in the game. They are there to test other things.

[Nikel]

In the description it is said that:

In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.

The infrared seeker apparently is missing.


Full description.

OVERVIEW: The Rampage aka MARS is a long-range, solid-fuel, supersonic, air-to-ground, precision strike weapon, using GPS/INS guidance and an IIR seeker. It is with a 150 kg warhead.

DETAILS: The Rampage is intended for use in attacking high-value, well-protected targets at standoff range. It is an autonomous, stand-off weapon, capable of making quick response, precision strikes using either a pre-programmed or in-flight programed mission profile.

After launch, the missile us guided by INS and satellite. In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.

Specifications:
Weight: 570 kg
Length: 4.7 m
Diameter: 0.306 m
Wingspan: ??m
Speed: 1069 knts (1980 km/hr)(M 1.6)
Range: 81-135 nm
CEP: 10.0 meters.



NOTES: IOC 2019. Used by Israel and India. Under consideration by RAF as a cheaper alternative to Storm Shadow.



SOURCES: IAI. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://www.iai.co.il/p/rampage ; Elbit Systems. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://elbitsystems.com/product/rampage/.

[BDukes]

In the description it is said that:

In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.

The infrared seeker apparently is missing.


Full description.

OVERVIEW: The Rampage aka MARS is a long-range, solid-fuel, supersonic, air-to-ground, precision strike weapon, using GPS/INS guidance and an IIR seeker. It is with a 150 kg warhead.

DETAILS: The Rampage is intended for use in attacking high-value, well-protected targets at standoff range. It is an autonomous, stand-off weapon, capable of making quick response, precision strikes using either a pre-programmed or in-flight programed mission profile.

After launch, the missile us guided by INS and satellite. In the terminal phase, the missile uses an imaging infrared seeker. It also has a two-way datalink, allowing it to provide preliminary BDA.

Specifications:
Weight: 570 kg
Length: 4.7 m
Diameter: 0.306 m
Wingspan: ??m
Speed: 1069 knts (1980 km/hr)(M 1.6)
Range: 81-135 nm
CEP: 10.0 meters.



NOTES: IOC 2019. Used by Israel and India. Under consideration by RAF as a cheaper alternative to Storm Shadow.



SOURCES: IAI. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://www.iai.co.il/p/rampage ; Elbit Systems. "Rampage." Accessed March 22, 2024. https://elbitsystems.com/product/rampage/.

This is a GPS/INS weapons so its not homing on the target but the targets coordinates. The behavior is correct. I haven't seen any reference mention IIR and it doesn't look like its IIR. Elbit doesn't mention IIR. Google Gemini does but the sources is somewhat murky.

https://www.elbitsystems.com/air-space/ ... ts/rampage

[Nikel]

This is a GPS/INS weapons so its not homing on the target but the targets coordinates. The behavior is correct. I haven't seen any reference mention IIR and it doesn't look like its IIR. Elbit doesn't mention IIR. Google Gemini does but the sources is somewhat murky.

https://www.elbitsystems.com/air-space/ ... ts/rampage

Then the description is wrong?

In the valid targets are listed ships and mobile units, should they be removed and the only valid should be not moving land structures? In the link you posted all the targets seem to be land and static.


Janes, now lost piece, saved in the web archive site, not pure ballistic Who knows.


https://web.archive.org/web/20180818021 ... ce-missile


Something is going on nevertheless, because is missing a lot even on radars.

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[BDukes]

This is a GPS/INS weapons so its not homing on the target but the targets coordinates. The behavior is correct. I haven't seen any reference mention IIR and it doesn't look like its IIR. Elbit doesn't mention IIR. Google Gemini does but the sources is somewhat murky.

https://www.elbitsystems.com/air-space/ ... ts/rampage

Then the description is wrong?

In the valid targets are listed ships and mobile units, should they be removed and the only valid should be not moving land structures? In the link you posted all the targets seem to be land and static.


Janes, now lost piece, saved in the web archive site, not pure ballistic Who knows.


https://web.archive.org/web/20180818021 ... ce-missile


Something is going on nevertheless, because is missing a lot even on radars.

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Yeah, I don't think the description file is up to date.

The CEP for land under general data (which reads from the database rather than a description file) is 10m. If its off its not by much in this case.

M

[DWReese]

Not that Google is a credible source, but it says that the Rampage can not be used against ships because it lacks the guidance to be able to hit moving targets. It's for land-based non-moving structures only. FWIW

[Nikel]

TWZ article regarding Indian Navy MiG-29s Get Israeli Rampage.

It would not, however, be well suited for use against warships, or other moving targets, maritime or otherwise.

https://www.twz.com/indian-navy-mig-29s ... off-weapon

[Blast33]

No room in the nose for guidance like a radar and no optics visible.
Static targets is also nice