ORIGINAL: Dixie
ORIGINAL: ckammp
Your fellow RN fanboy issued a challenge to find a post suggesting that someone claimed RN subs should be rated higher than US subs. I answered that challenge - post#4 in this thread.
This claim was made with NO evidence for support, yet you RN fanboys eagerly accept it as true. When someone dared to question this claim, the result was several posts proudly proclaiming the superiority of the RN, and denigrating the performance of the USN.
As a US veteran, I really don't appreciate all the negative posts about the US; if that makes me 'thin-skinned', then so be it. If my responses upset you sensitive RN fanboys, well, sorry. Taking pride in your military is one thing, degrading another country's military is another. If you RN fanboys can do the former without also doing the latter, then you'll hear nothing from me.
And yes, there are people saying nice things about the US in this thread; my point is there are also a lot of people saying bad things about the US in this thread.
As for John Wayne, if you told him that RN captains were better than US captains, he'd knock you on your ...
Well, I'm not an RN fanboy. Boats are *** [:'(] And being stuck in a metal tube that goes underwater is even more so [;)] I didn't remember the post you mentioned, fair enough it was there and you found it. Have a medal. Now if you'd said I was an RAF fanboy you might be closer to the mark.
There aren't a lot of people saying bad things about the US in this thread at all. [:-] Just some sort of persecution problem from a USN fanboy. There is a post where someone says that RN skippers were (are) better than USN counterparts. It doesn't automatically make the implication that USN skippers were poor or denigrate their capabilities. Unless you are so insecure that you need to shout out your defence of the USN at every opportunity.
Or perhaps the Brits should start complaining that there is a lot of RN bashing going on in here from lots of USN fanboys. Except that (1) there isn't any bashing going on and (2) it seems you're only a fanboy when you aren't pro-USA [8|]
And as for John Wayne. He'd find it difficult to knock me on my arse. Because he's not in a position to do much knocking [:D][:'(]
The USN and RN fought different wars, the conditions and enemies were different. Apples and Oranges. The USN didn't fight the war that the RN did, the RN didn't fight the same war the US did.
For the most part (and I know it wasn't the entire war and some factors were similar) the USN fought a war in the open waters of the Pacific with long range boats. Transit times were longer but probably safer. The USN war was in some ways forced to the fore with the surface fleet battered at PH leaving the ubs as the main way to prosecute the war against an opponent with a large merchent force.
The RN fought in more confined waters in the Med, the transit times were shorter but more dangerous. Shallow, clear water made things tricky as did some extensive minefields. The offensive war wasn't as much of a priority for us Brits. Subs were used where possible, but iirc a fair bit of effort was put towards anti u-boat patrols and supply missions to Malta. In the Far East the RN subs mainly carried out shorter patrols around the DEI or Malacca Straits.
EDIT: In essence: The USN wouldn't have done too well in the Med with their more vulnerable, more visible big boats, the RN wouldn't have done too well against the Japanese HI with their smaller shorter ranged boats.
If my repsonse upsets you sensitive USN fanboys, then I don't care. Go and cry about it. Then get a medal, you seem to get them for everything else...
The entire point of this thread WAS that some RN captains had seemingly low ratings given their experience of several years of warfare.
P.S. If sprior is reading this... Submarines are really *** [:'(]
Odd that you don't remember post #4, you being the author of post #5![;)]
Anyhow, while still maintaining I am in the right, I recognize that my posts have not necessarily been constructive in regards to the topic of this thread.
I hereby apologize, if anyone was offended by anything I wrote.
However, I will never apologize for being a USA fanboy. Neither will I hesitate to defend myself.
The medals I have, were EARNED.
In combat.
And no-one has ANY right to question their validity.[:-]
And John Wayne? Yes, he's been dead these 30 years, but this 'handicap' just means a fight with a RAF fanboy will be a fair one![:'(]
