Groundhog Day! - No NJP
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RE: Groundhog Day!
NJP did very well this game. Army VPs are almost in his favor and ship VPs still are. Makes it tough to get the 2-1 ratio by the historical end date. Looks like this war could go until October or November before you finally get the 2-1.
What about nukes? I know you probably don't like them but I think it would be a good capstone when you're on the cusp of a 2-1 ratio. I mean how many of us can say we've used nukes in a full PBEM before? Not an opportunity that comes around very often!
What about nukes? I know you probably don't like them but I think it would be a good capstone when you're on the cusp of a 2-1 ratio. I mean how many of us can say we've used nukes in a full PBEM before? Not an opportunity that comes around very often!
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RE: Groundhog Day!
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
NJP did very well this game. Army VPs are almost in his favor and ship VPs still are. Makes it tough to get the 2-1 ratio by the historical end date. Looks like this war could go until October or November before you finally get the 2-1.
What about nukes? I know you probably don't like them but I think it would be a good capstone when you're on the cusp of a 2-1 ratio. I mean how many of us can say we've used nukes in a full PBEM before? Not an opportunity that comes around very often!
I have not really seen great results from their use. First of all you have to have air superiority over a hex or risk losing the plane and if you do get through that does not guarantee awesome damage. I doubt I will be using a nuke but if the game lasts till Christmas maybe Santa will have something to drop down the chimney!!
Going to help the Russians take over the eastern side of Japan. Might end up with East and West Tokyo in this game :]

RE: Groundhog Day!
I see you lost more VPs 2,000+ in shipping, I would consider that to be a Japanese win.
RE: Groundhog Day!
Most of that happened when the AI reacted a huge CV TF right into the guns and mines in the straits of Tsushima - I forget which base but that does not matter. It was one of those things that isn't really in the player's control except to avoid the area entirely - and Wargmr was already in the Sea of Japan trying to move back to his own bases.
Many players would have asked for a re-do but Wargmr ate the losses and continued - good on him! Made for an interesting and more drawn out end game. [:)]
Many players would have asked for a re-do but Wargmr ate the losses and continued - good on him! Made for an interesting and more drawn out end game. [:)]
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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RE: Groundhog Day!
This is one of my favorite Russian units.
Those are some impressive motorcycles!!

Those are some impressive motorcycles!!

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RE: Groundhog Day!
Early September 1945
Hokkaido is in trouble. NJP has good forces at Sapporo but Bihoro folded and soon everything else will be invaded/surrounded. Toyohara is under siege by equal forces.
On Honsu NJP has over 3500 AV at Hiroshima and still good forts. The last attack went in at 1 to 11 with the previous at 1 to 14. Fukyuyama seems pretty strong but Okyama is seemingly a weak spot with the last adjusted just over 500AV with the raw AV being near 2600. My troops got downgraded pretty seriously as well but I have 4000 AV with most of my armor attacking again this turn. If/when it folds then Hiroshima is isolated.
I have 4 russian divisions that have trained for Akita that are beginning to load at Keijo as it has just fallen. I will do an amphibious assault on this base at the northeast side of Honshu and put further pressure on the Japanese. From there I can put most of the russian army on the Japanese mainland.
What is impressive is the rate of healing of my divisions on Honshu. Due to all the HQ's and plentiful supply most divisions are in fantastic shape. I just attack, take my beating, divide the divisions, heal, rebuild and attack again. It just reinforces how badly I handled support and HQ's through the game. A point I need to work on with the next one.
The point score just dropped to below 20,000 for an allied 2-1 win. Looking like it ends before November but I could always destroy a huge allied carrier group still...
NJP has a huge minefield at Hiroshima that he is using as a shield along with small shipping groups. Impossible to bombard without running into the mines. I am sending fleets of PT boats into them and having them blow up but the progress is slow. I plan on amphibious assaulting Takamatsu but want to wait to be sure I have reinforcements ready to go. He had 4 units there but a low bombing destroyed 2 of them and the hex has almost no guns so another run will probably take the remaining units out.
NJP has 1000 fighters at Kobe and another 600 at Kyoto along with 1400 at Tokyo. I am trying to avoid the buzz saw CAP.

Hokkaido is in trouble. NJP has good forces at Sapporo but Bihoro folded and soon everything else will be invaded/surrounded. Toyohara is under siege by equal forces.
On Honsu NJP has over 3500 AV at Hiroshima and still good forts. The last attack went in at 1 to 11 with the previous at 1 to 14. Fukyuyama seems pretty strong but Okyama is seemingly a weak spot with the last adjusted just over 500AV with the raw AV being near 2600. My troops got downgraded pretty seriously as well but I have 4000 AV with most of my armor attacking again this turn. If/when it folds then Hiroshima is isolated.
I have 4 russian divisions that have trained for Akita that are beginning to load at Keijo as it has just fallen. I will do an amphibious assault on this base at the northeast side of Honshu and put further pressure on the Japanese. From there I can put most of the russian army on the Japanese mainland.
What is impressive is the rate of healing of my divisions on Honshu. Due to all the HQ's and plentiful supply most divisions are in fantastic shape. I just attack, take my beating, divide the divisions, heal, rebuild and attack again. It just reinforces how badly I handled support and HQ's through the game. A point I need to work on with the next one.
The point score just dropped to below 20,000 for an allied 2-1 win. Looking like it ends before November but I could always destroy a huge allied carrier group still...
NJP has a huge minefield at Hiroshima that he is using as a shield along with small shipping groups. Impossible to bombard without running into the mines. I am sending fleets of PT boats into them and having them blow up but the progress is slow. I plan on amphibious assaulting Takamatsu but want to wait to be sure I have reinforcements ready to go. He had 4 units there but a low bombing destroyed 2 of them and the hex has almost no guns so another run will probably take the remaining units out.
NJP has 1000 fighters at Kobe and another 600 at Kyoto along with 1400 at Tokyo. I am trying to avoid the buzz saw CAP.

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RE: Groundhog Day!
This has been such an epic game to follow. Thank you for the updates.
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This has been such an epic game to follow. Thank you for the updates.
I appreciate the compliment. It has been another epic contest and a wonderful few years playing NJP.
Could not have asked for a better opponent.

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RE: Groundhog Day!
Here is the current score page.


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RE: Groundhog Day!
October 1 1945
NJP is still stubbornly holding on. Probably because I dont strat bomb that much. Russia has taken over northeast Japan. Going to put a few more AV in at akita and then drop a couple mechanized divisions on the other side of the island in a clear hex. Hopefully this really causes him some problems.
About 16K still to go for the win, it might take till 1946 at this rate :]

NJP is still stubbornly holding on. Probably because I dont strat bomb that much. Russia has taken over northeast Japan. Going to put a few more AV in at akita and then drop a couple mechanized divisions on the other side of the island in a clear hex. Hopefully this really causes him some problems.
About 16K still to go for the win, it might take till 1946 at this rate :]

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RE: Groundhog Day!
This is looking like the collapse of Germany - Russians racing toward Tokyo from the east and Western powers struggling to get there from the west. Can you say "Tokyo Wall", kids? Better start prepping some units to fight Russians! 
PS - all in reference to the situation in late 1945, not today's world stage.

PS - all in reference to the situation in late 1945, not today's world stage.
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This is looking like the collapse of Germany - Russians racing toward Tokyo from the east and Western powers struggling to get there from the west. Can you say "Tokyo Wall", kids? Better start prepping some units to fight Russians!
PS - all in reference to the situation in late 1945, not today's world stage.
I suggested that to NJP earlier, we just might have east and west Tokyo!! :]

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What an amazing ride. Thank you again to my friend Nathan Poy for years of wonderful entertainment!!! WITPAE FOREVER!!


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RE: Groundhog Day!
Score on Oct 31, 1945


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RE: Groundhog Day!
Congrats on a well played game - and to NJP too for his grit in resisting your advances! He almost retained his Undefeated Japan virginity! [:D]
Awesome entertainment and learning experience to follow your AAR. What I learned mostly was never to play you nor NJP .... [:D][&o][&o]
Awesome entertainment and learning experience to follow your AAR. What I learned mostly was never to play you nor NJP .... [:D][&o][&o]
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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Congrats on a well played game - and to NJP too for his grit in resisting your advances! He almost retained his Undefeated Japan virginity! [:D]
Awesome entertainment and learning experience to follow your AAR. What I learned mostly was never to play you nor NJP .... [:D][&o][&o]
I beat him to death with the handle of my sword and my face... Not exactly textbook!! :} Thanks for reading!!

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Congratulations to you both![&o][&o][&o]
Can't tell you how much enjoyment I got for all your AARs...
Can't tell you how much enjoyment I got for all your AARs...
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RE: Groundhog Day!
Aircraft Pools
Many people are concerned about how many planes are in their pools and are happy when they have alot. I view planes in the pools as ones that are not being used so plane levels are an afterthought to me.
As far as bombers, by the time the B-29's started getting scarce the B17-G showed up to fill any deficit.
I did not utilize night bombing at all and used my strategic bombing very little in this game.

Many people are concerned about how many planes are in their pools and are happy when they have alot. I view planes in the pools as ones that are not being used so plane levels are an afterthought to me.
As far as bombers, by the time the B-29's started getting scarce the B17-G showed up to fill any deficit.
I did not utilize night bombing at all and used my strategic bombing very little in this game.

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