AA from adjacent hexes.

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tyronec
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AA from adjacent hexes.

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This is T7/8 of my game with Shupov.

The Soviets are doing GA on 9th Pz division.
In the adjacent hex I have an HQ with 6 AA SU's, all with 12 x 88s each, so a total of 72 88s. Soviet bombers are flying too high for the 20s and 37s.
In one of the bombing runs 8 88s fire, for the rest of them they don't.

I thought 88s could fire at adjacent hexes, they have done so in the past.
Is there some other reason at play here, do they only fire if the bombers fly over the hex with the AA ?
I don't think supply is an issue.
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Re: AA from adjacent hexes.

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The bombers need to be above a certain altitude IIRC, otherwise adjacent Hex's High Level Flak won't shoot. It's described in the manual.
Furthermore there seems to be some kind of "roll" of sorts, which decides if the Flak is shooting, I assume that if the flak is listed in the Combat report in the Airforce area it was rolled to shoot (something like this).
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Re: AA from adjacent hexes.

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Thanks.

Altitude is 25k so that would not account for it, also some did fire sometimes.
Maybe it is all RNG but only getting 14% firing across the 7 combats - more during the intercept battles than the bombing ones.
It does say fire is more effective from the target hex. I would take that to mean that the guns fire more effectively rather than more of them fire, but perhaps it means there is more chance of them firing.
Here is the section from the manual:

19.3.1. Anti-Aircraft fire on route to target
In addition, anti-aircraft guns can target planes flying in adjacent hexes. AA units in
cities/airfields will fire at aircraft flying in adjacent hexes if they are 15,000 feet or
higher. Any AA attached to combat units or HQs (whether part of the unit TOE or an
attached Support Unit) will fire into adjacent hexes if the enemy aircraft is 10,000 feet
or higher.
Fire at adjacent hexes has much less effect than fire at aircraft flying directly overhead.
For all air missions AA units in the target hex are much more effective. AA units
attached directly to cities or airfields (including flak intrinsic to the airfield unit) are
more effective, as are self-propelled flak units. These are cumulative benefits, so a
self-propelled flak unit in a city that is in the target hex will receive benefits from all
three conditions. Flak against air transport and airborne missions is more severe in
daytime than at night.
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