AAR swift vs fochinell

[wernerpruckner]

10th September 1943:

limited action due to weather

5:8 losses - nothing interesting....

[tblersch]

"It worked when I tested it!"

Gee, I never EVER hear that from my developers... [:D]

[fochinell]

Swift Missing In Action...

[wernerpruckner]

11th September 1943

good weather in the West and Germany [:(]
lots of action....not too much I can do against it at the moment....morale of many units is low...also the high morale units are tired...and that causes too many losses

targets are the UFACs Bremen Seebeck and Deutsche Schiff by the 8th AF
Tactical forces raid the RRs Hannelt and Nijmwegen and also - once again - the A/F Gilze Rijen.
BC active and striking Duisburg and a Mossiebomber raid to Berlin

45:53 losses

[wernerpruckner]

12th September 1943:

good weather in all of Europe

The 8th AF goes once more against my UFACs ( Vulkan-Vegesacker ) and as a secondary against PORT Nordenham.
Several tactical raids: A/Fs Deelen, Gladbach and Woensdrecht

In Italy it seems that Gavin put everything up into the air...targets are PORT Civitavecchia and the RRs Viterbo, Oriveto, Perugia and Rome-Tiburtina.

In the night raids against Berlin and Bologna.

67:112 losses

The main defenceline in Italy is now the Gustavlinie

[wernerpruckner]

13th September 1943:

weather !!! [:)] and not a single sortie
good turn for moving more stuff around

[wernerpruckner]

14th September 1943:

good weather

West:
8th Air Force attacked the RR and PORT of Münster
Several tactical raids ( RR Brussels Midi, PORT Dunkirk, POWER Interencaut and a sweep on an empty A/F )

Italy:
I got hit hard here:
RR L´Aquila & Terni, POWER Galleto, A/F Viterbo & Rieti
Half of my losses happened in Italy ( and only a third of the kills )
I will retreat the Gruppen sized units back, and move some smaller units to the front.

Night:
BC bombed Gelsenkirchen and once ahain a MOssiebomber raid to Berlin

103:126 losses

[fochinell]

I was thinking about a maximum effort in the west since the weather was so good, but I need a couple more days before the most recent escort fighter groups are up to strength before I go for it. There are now 2 P-38 Groups operational in the 8th AF alongside 3 P-47C and 2 P-47D, with another P-47C group building up. The 52nd FG in the 12th AF should be converting to the P-38 by the end of the month, and deeper penetration missions to northern Italy should follow as the Sardinian and then Corsican bases open up. Still waiting for those 12th AF bases north of Naples to open up. Then my fearsome P-39 and P-40 FG's will be able to enter the battle again after re-equipping from the A-36.

[fochinell]

OK, time for some self-important whingeing. Here are a couple of minor things that really make me feel

1. Why are the recce units obsessed with planning missions to the same targets? What the hell is so interesting about RR sites in northern Denmark (apart from photographing Scandanavian blondes instead of Nazi installations)? The most important/largest sites should be the priority; Hamm, Dortmund, etc.

2. I hate those small 4 a/c flights; they never get involved with autoplotted missions. Those two flights of PR Spits from the same squadron in MAC really need to be rolled up into a single squadron.

Ahh, that's better.... Now for some of Wener's beer.

[BigDuke66]

Has the Jagdstaffel Helgoland seen some action?
I want to know if I have a kill already.[:D]

[wernerpruckner]

Jagdstaffel Helgoland has seen some big action in the few UFAC raids.
At the moment it has 9 active pilots and a total of 12 kills.
Hptm H.H.Konig 3
Oblt H Behrend 2
Lt E Hondt 2
Ofw T.Steiner 3

I do not know if the other two kills were made by a KIA pilot or a WIA pilot - I do not see those in the pilot list.

[wernerpruckner]

15th September

all action in the West
I was lucky enough to concentrate my forces against an 8th AF Fortress raid
=> 42 Fortress did not get back to the UK !!

50:67 losses


16th September

weather in the West
all action in Italy:
RR Orvieto, Viterbo, Terni, L´Aquila, Littoria and Rome/Tiburtina and also STEEL Nero Montoro.
Only the Stab units of the JG27 and 77 are close behind the lines
all other units were nove while in patrol status southwards and they were concentrated on a single raid - finally a not so bad turn in Italy [:D]

BC was active, but of the 3 bomberstreams to PORT Berlin-Spree only the 3 pathfinder units made the raid...no intercepts, because the weather would have caused too many landing accidents.

10:36 losses
score is 2/7/9

[BigDuke66]

Do wounded pilots stay with the unit or do they come into a pool?
Is there a list for KIA & MIA pilots?

My pilot is Christian Hecht.

[wernerpruckner]

WIA stay with their units

don´t forget that this is the "old" BtR and not the new one [:)]

[fochinell]

BC was active, but of the 3 bomberstreams to PORT Berlin-Spree only the 3 pathfinder units made the raid..



Yes, just as entertaining as the "weather too bad to send out the escorts, but not bad enough to scrub the bombers", is the "weather too bad to send out the bombers, except for the lead units".

Scrub them all or none at all!!!!!

[:@]

Now for some more of Werner's beer to deal with my rage issues.



Much better. [8D]

[HMSWarspite]

The escort no show happened several times in rl. Either some bombers don't get th recall, or the fighters aren't at the rendezvous (bombers' version), or the bombers were late and the fighters had to abort for fuel (fighters' version)!

I like that occasional oops moment (even when playing Allied[:'(]

[fochinell]

The escort no show happened several times in rl.

Late or a missing wave of escorts happened regularly. On the other hand, an entire absence of escorts did usually result in the recall of all the bombers, and the absence of all the bombing units would not usually see 3 PFF B-17's with H2S attacking the Reich alone.

I like that occasional oops moment (even when playing Allied

I don't mind the weather buggering things up, but the degree to which it does so should be variable. As things stand, it's too binary; either all the following bombers are grounded, or all the escorts are delayed or grounded. In either case, the lead unit always goes ahead regardless. [:@]

[wernerpruckner]

17th September 1943

good weather in Italy,
but still Gavin likes to fly in the fog of the Channel with tactical raids ( Cherbourg Port and Hazebrouck RR )

In Italy Gavin is concentrating on my supply lines => RR Civitavecchia (2 times ), RR Orivieto, RR Rome/Littorio and RR Fabriano.
Once again it was a better turn for my boys - most of them attacked a British light bomber raid [:'(]

In the night BC targeted Rostock.

3:27 losses ( of my 3 two crashed while flying to their home airbase )

In this game Gavin does not seem to like to attack my A/Fs - so far only 12 A/C destroyed and 35 damaged on ground.

[fochinell]

but still Gavin likes to fly in the fog of the Channel with tactical raids ( Cherbourg Port and Hazebrouck RR )

I use the Tiffies and later the P-47's to do some strikes when there are no bomber forces active and using up the available fighter escort force.

In Italy Gavin is concentrating on my supply lines => RR Civitavecchia (2 times ), RR Orivieto, RR Rome/Littorio and RR Fabriano.
Once again it was a better turn for my boys - most of them attacked a British light bomber raid

You win some, you lose some. The failure of the P-40's and escorting Spits up the Adriatic coast was more disappointing that turn. [:@]

In this game Gavin does not seem to like to attack my A/Fs - so far only 12 A/C destroyed and 35 damaged on ground.

RR's are important for terror damage and supplies, as I hate raids against TRP targets - too much Flak attrition for practically zero result. AF's will be hit, though... [8|]

[wernerpruckner]

18th September 1943

still bad weather over the Channel, and good weather in Italy

In the West there was only one raid - fighterbomber raid to the big Solvay plant (CHEM) near the coast

In Italy - surprisingly [;)][:D] - a few sweeps, not very sucessful, but Gavin is showing the flag [:'(]
A/F Jesi was bombed and sweeped, A/F Grosseto was visited by a sweep.
RRs Orbetello and Sulmona were bombed.
A very good loss/kill ratio during these actions for me....but as soon Gavin moves his units closer to the front it will getting tougher.

In the night BC visited Wilhelmsburg.

At the end of the turn: Invasion of Sardinia.

1:27 losses [:D]

active aces:
7 kills flying Me410A2/R2 of the III/ZG 26
6 kills flying Ju88C-6a of the 11/ZG 26
5 kills flying Bf109G-6 of the I/JG 3
5 kills flying Fw190A of the I/JG 26