AAR swift vs fochinell

[wernerpruckner]

Gavin (aka fochinell ) is back from bringing some culture into the US ( = lecturing and researching somewhere over there )
and he could not stand to wait for the new version - so we are back starting a new PBEM while waiting.

version: BTR1.05x6 with an improved OB/OA ( copyright JeanClaudeLorusso !!)

Gavin and I are playing BTR for a long time - we had 2 PBEMs going on ( at the same time [8|] ) - those games ended due to a family matter on my side...and now I do not find the saves anymore!!

Gavin plays the Evil Allied Horde while my valiant forces will try to defend Europe.

[wernerpruckner]

I do not know yet if this will be an jointAAR - so do not expect too deep inside peeks at the moment !!

pre turn 1:

I have 200 operation points for moving A/C and AA around
I start with dispersing the units from the usual 1st turn attck A/Fs like Schipol.

I do not yet change any production, as this should be an more realistic game - there will be some tweaking, but do not expect the jets before their time in RL in front units.

[wernerpruckner]

turn 1:

the picture is for you to see how many targets there are in BTR !!

The weather was perfect for the Axis forces in Europe - fog and clouds over the UK and Germany. Only one small sweep to Schipol was managed by Gavin - in the bad weather and due to some minor fights it did not reach the target.


In Italy the weather was much better [:(] and so Gavin was able to put lots of A/C into the air

[wernerpruckner]

combat in Italy:

as you will see in the next few pictures that there were some minor battles above Italy, put I do not think that Gavin tried to put many A/C into the air, he also was probably moving lots of stuff around

[wernerpruckner]

The Allied bombed - more or less successfully - two railyards, two airbases and one port.
The combat was a draw - 32:34 losses
most of my 32 losses were Italian pilots, with their obsolete A/C,
but my elite German pilots were able to kill 6 Fortresses and 7 A20C Boston bombers.
But I lost my best pilot of the day during the action - Ob.Fw.-A.Seibert was able to shoot down one Fortress and one Lightning before he was killed by the MG fire of another Fortress bomber.

During the night there was lots of radio intercepts, but only a bunch of night intruders crossed the channel - therefore I let my pilots grounded!

[wernerpruckner]

an alternate picture of the picture above with A/C ON:

[wernerpruckner]

after the turn I dispersed the units a bit more - now there are nearly no airbases with more than two units on them.

I also had an look on my production:
( A/C / produced / ( pool ) )
Do217N 1 (0)
Bf109G-6/R6 10 (0)
Bf109G-6U4N 1 (1)
Bf109G-6 51 (30)
Fw190G 1 (1)
Fw190A 16 (8)
Fw190F 1 (1)
Fw190A-8/R8 4 (4)
Bf110G-2 8 (8)
Me210C 4 (4)
Me410A2/R2 3 (3)
Ju88C-6 4 (0)
Bf110G-4 9 (0)

there are several understrenght units at the moment, but they will fill up soon.

[fochinell]

The attempted Schipol strafe was the token effort made to catch the LW on the first turn bases - having played Swiftie before I didn't expect OKL to leave too many units on their starting bases. Other than that OKL is correct to assume that some major unit shuffling is going on. Major attacks should begin in a couple of turns. Bad weather defeated BC before they could take off...

[wernerpruckner]

the second turn - still very limited Allied action.

In Italy Gavin paid for his two sweeps dearly. The Kittyhawk and SpitfireVB pilots are not too happy with their new CinC - the POWs complained about suicide missions [:-][:D]

In the north limited action around Antwerp - here the Allied forces targeted the two big ARM sites and on A/F.

My forces lost 11 A/C ( all of them Bf109Gs and Fw190As ) for 38 enemy A/C ( most of them Spitfires and Kittyhawks )

[Hard Sarge]

Swift, you know you are not allowed to pick on Galvins Spits !!!!
 
 

[fochinell]

In Italy Gavin paid for his two sweeps dearly. The Kittyhawk and SpitfireVB pilots are not too happy with their new CinC - the POWs complained about suicide mission

Hopefully in the new version they will actually fight back. [sigh...]

[wernerpruckner]

Another day without any major Allied action - the weather is getting worse [:)]

The Allied forces bombed Antwerp (RR) and sweeped the A/Fs Soesterberg and Gilze Rijen.
As you can see in the picture, Gavins timing was very good!! The I/JG 1 was caught during landing [X(] and most of the Fw190 losses this day ( 19 !! ) happened here.

In Italy Gavin tried something similar and attacked Neaples (RR) and sweeped the A/F Castrovillari three times - here he lost a few A/C because a light railroad Flak unit is stationed here; but he also scored a few ground kills against the II/JG 77.

Today my forces lost 35 A/C including 8 killed ( and 20 damaged ) on the ground.
The Allied forces losses are a bit heavier with 57 lost A/C ( 17/158 due to flak )

[wernerpruckner]

Swift, you know you are not allowed to pick on Galvins Spits !!!!

[:'(] I did not pick at them - I just run over them - they happened to be in the way [8|]

[von Shagmeister]

ORIGINAL: fochinell

In Italy Gavin paid for his two sweeps dearly. The Kittyhawk and SpitfireVB pilots are not too happy with their new CinC - the POWs complained about suicide mission

Hopefully in the new version they will actually fight back. [sigh...]

Sorry for butting in and being off topic.

Fighter-bombers do fight back now, even had a Mosquito FB.VI shoot down a Bf 109G-6 the other day after being bounced.

Much more realistic now, no more 30-40 Typhoons being hacked out of the air and doing nothing back. Losses when fighter-bombers are bounced now more realistic too.

[fochinell]

Fighter-bombers do fight back now... Losses when fighter-bombers are bounced now more realistic too.

Great. Now all HS and his team of willing slaves need to do is to get the Spitfires to fight back...

[wernerpruckner]

Fighter-bombers do fight back now... Losses when fighter-bombers are bounced now more realistic too.

Great. Now all HS and his team of willing slaves need to do is to get the Spitfires to fight back...

they do - at least during beta testing....some wonderful new toys [:'(] but I wont say....

[wernerpruckner]

good weather over the Channel.....this calls for a major effort day....and here they come..

targets are once again in the Low Countries - all of Brussels railyards are hit
also the nearby city of Arrschot was bombed - there are no military installations nearby...so this was poor terror raid against the people of Holland

These were also two sweeps to the Brussels area.

[wernerpruckner]

The heavy bombers of the 8th AF scored also a few air to air kills....also the news about their new bomb-sight seem to be correct.
THe Brussels RRs were hit hard [X(]

[wernerpruckner]

Now to the Italian front.
Gavin continues to attack coastal targets and a few A/Fs - Neaples, Battipaglia, Sepni, Crotone; also some hopeless sweeps were flows....

[wernerpruckner]

At theend of the day the Luftwaffe and its Allies have lost 36 A/C with no losses on the ground ( two A/C were damaged )
But as there is the so called SAS bug in BTR105x6 or is it 106x5 some losses are expected in near future.

The Allied losses were a bit higher, but they were only fighter losses - it is important to kill some Fortresses !!! 84 lost A/C with 33/221 due to AA

and now a look on my best pilots - an Italian is leading with 4 kills and an exp of 47 - must have been the easy KIttyhawk kills [:'(]