Banana vs Uamaga - England vs Poland

[EUBanana]

I'm not sure if Uamaga plans on an AAR, he said he might, but he probably wouldn't, but I plan on at least a cursory one.

Sensitive top secret information may be discussed here, so no Uamaga's allowed!

I'm the Allies. Theres a humungous list of house rules... here.

- No City attacks (strategic bombing) IN or OUT of China.
- Para units must be used as whole units: meaning para unit may only be used to drop into one target at a time and must have no fragments on map before drop starts (however they may be droped into the target partially or in couple of waves turn by turn).
- No empty base training runs for pilots. Attacking troops/garrisoned bases to gather exp ok.
- 6 Ships Max in ASW TFs
- up to 6 PTs per TF. No more then 1 PT TF in defense of port <=3, no more then 2 PT TFs in defense of port <= 6, up to three in larger.
- No more then 5000 mines in defense of ports <= 3
- Aircraft stacking: no more then 50*AF-level aircrafts in AF with exception of ACs in transfer (but such ACs in excess must be set to stand down)
- 4E bombers on naval strikes at altitude no less then 15000 feet.
- no aircrafts strikes (including Kamikaze) at altitude above 30000 feets except B-29.
- no more then one army (navy/marines is OK) 2E/4E bomber airgroup at naval search per base. Same (but counted separately) for ASW mission.
- attacking large stack of LCUs a minimum of 100AV (unadjusted) must be used in the attack (to prevent cheap fort reductions and unreasonable supply burning by attacking with micro-fragments of land units)
- commando-like raids with subs or fast TFs with LCU fragments allowed against beaches and small bases (Port+AF < 4 ?). For invading larger bases "proper" units delivered on regular TFs must be used.
- offensive air-bridges should be limited to brigade size units. Offensive air-bridge means: taking the base via raid or paradrop and setting up instant airbridge to deliver mass of troops. Mass air transfer of LCUs to defended bases OK.
- subs evacs are OK
- Q: should we allow invasions in non-base hex(not even a beach)? Often overused for supply/retreat cut.. OTOH landing troops from sinking AP/AK in open terrain just to save their life looks ok to me?
- no overuse of single-ship TFs. Scattering convoys in danger to run for their lives is OK (i.e. no prob with allied shipping runnig from Manila in single ship TFs), running single TFs to deliver supply to sieged bases I think is OK too (?) but deliberately pushing single/small ship TFs (transport or warship) to soak enemy air strikes and/or to burn opponent CVs sorties is gamey big way IMO. Some common sense needed here I guess. What you think?
- no more then 4 CV TFs in single hex with no less then 2 big CV in each TF if possible (i.e. 2CV + 1CV TF (Midway like setup is OK but 3 times 1CV TF is not).

- no Corsairs operating on CV before 06/44
- 2E LBA airgroups must stay 2E except for few starting Bolo units wich can be upgraded to 4E by default
- if attacking USSR japanese player must activate soviets at least 30 days before actual attack.
- Japanese may not invade Aden (well... , no japanese ships except I-boats can enter into lanes leading to Aden/Panama (air attacks on shipping in lanes is allowed)
- japanese army DB airgroups may not upgrade to "heavy" bombers (Sally/Helen; Lily is OK).
- Kwantung Army units need to change command HQ and pay PPs to change command to be able to leave Machukuo/Korea (except in direction of Soviet Union of course
- Allied Chinese Army units must change command HQ and pay PPs to leave China (except in direction of Machukuo/Korea or Vietnamese invasion of course).
- japan units (LAND and AIR) from unrestricted commands must change command HQ (to CEA) and pay PPs when entering into China continent with exception of chinese ports controled by Japan (from Canton to Tientsin).which for this rule are treated as "belonging to both worlds" (SAA/CEA).
- allied units (LAND and AIR) must change to proper command HQ and pay PPs when entering into China with exception of AVG airgroup.
(These two last rules are somewhat experimental and intended to better simulate relative isolation of China theatre and political/logistical problems of both sides there.)

Opening/1st turn rules:
* No more then 1 japanese port attack in 1st turn (PH, Manila, Singapoure or whatever but only once)
* no more then two days of PH strikes (if any)
* KB may hang in PH/WestCoast area no more then a week, then must go back to major base (Truck, HI) but may intervene on the road back at Wake/Gilberts if needed.
* At 1st turn Allies can only change orders to TFs at sea and land units.
* no japanese invasion in 1st turn against allied bases further then 10 hexes from nearest japanese base. also japanese invasion/bombarding TFs targeting allied bases beyond 10 hexes limit must stop in 1st turn no closer then 5hexes from such base.
* Japanese player may not make proper invasions (raids are ok) outside its defensive perimeter before it get proper control over SRA.
Defensive permimeter (inclusive): Wake-Marshalls-Gilberts-Solomons-NewGuinea (excluding PM)-North Oz- Java-Sumatra-Port Blair-Rangoon
Proper control of SRA: any three out of four major bases in SRA are uncontested in japanese hands: Singapore, Manila, Batavia, Soreabaja.
* Japanese surface TFs may not cross Malacca Straits (Singapore-Sumatra) before Singapore is captured.


Proposed SETUP:
* WitP version 1.8.6
* CHS 159 scenario with proper AB map and corresponding pwhex file (common source of probs/ synch troubles...)
* Auto Subs OFF (both)
* Auto Replacements and Repairs OFF
* PDU ON
* Allied Adv. Damage Control ON
* Historical 1st turn OFF
* Surprise ON

On top of all that we got a gentlemans agreement not to use hordes of single ship TFs for the purpose of winning CV engagements (hard to have a hard rule for this as scattering convoys and such is acceptable, but we are avoiding gamey cheapness).

And another gentlemans agreement to use LCUs of at least brigade size when involved in "major operations", which is somewhat open to interpretation, but what was in mind was essentially assaulting cities and cutting off the escape routes of an army. So no commandos hitting Brisbane, no 12 squads being landed on a beach to cut off an entire army so it is "surrounded".

So hopefully a good game of reasonable historicity.

[EUBanana]

Well, got the first turn result.

Very timid Japanese moves actually.&nbsp; One division landing on the PI so far.&nbsp; No landings in Malaysia just yet.&nbsp; One SNLF unit takes the Admiralty Islands.

There was just two major airstrikes on the surprise turn - Pearl and Clark Field.&nbsp; Both of them were pretty devastating.&nbsp; BB Arizona and BB Oklahoma are gone, the least damaged six remaining BBs are on 24 and 25 sys.&nbsp; 36 Japanese a/c shot down, all by flak, in exchange for around 180 Allied planes, mostly caught on the ground.

The sub pens at Manila didn't get it, so thats probably something he'll rue later on.&nbsp; [:D]

For now theres not really much to say about Allied plans.&nbsp; I'll have to see how things develop, I'm not planning on a Sir Robin though, a fairly stiff defence is in order.

PoW is getting out of Dodge and headed for Java, oil and supplies are being sent to Singers while I got the chance.&nbsp; Singers airfield didnt even get hit, I think he'll rue that mistake as well.

[EUBanana]

Alright, well. Looks like he's not attempting to land on a hostile beach in Malaysia, he's landing in Jap territory immediately to the north, covered by 18 a/c.

I've moved up some Buffalos who will run sweeps over it, Vildebeest to blow up some ships, and the airfield is getting bombed. We'll see how that goes.

Oil is being shipped from Palembang to Singapore to keep the HI going for a bit, as it looks like he plans on fighting all the way down the peninsula the hard way, lets get those factories rolling. Supplies are being shipped up from Java as well, without Singapore airfield being bombed, and with no Jap bases right next to it after turn 1, safe-ish enough.

Mines are being deployed at Kuching, Force Z is on standby should he make moves on it.

Pretty much the entire Indian merchant fleet is headed for Aden to get the first blast of supplies shipped, I want to top up Java as soon as possible, before it gets dangerous, and the buggers take their sweet time to move. The MLE at Colombo is being dispatched to Soerabaja under heavy escort, British minelayers which are still intact due to Malaysia not being heavily bombed yet are planning on leaving lots of surprises if given half a chance.

There isnt much of note going on except fleeing in the PI, the USAAF has basically been eliminated at least temporarily due to the heavy bombing of Clark Field. Ditto Pearl, which is waiting with baited breath to see if KB will hang around. Mini KB is covering the PI invasion atm.

Aussie ships are making moves at heading for New Guinea along with a US CA, and some fuel is being sent towards Port Moresby in readiness.

[EUBanana]

Alright, I got a question for anybody who is reading this - it seems we have quite a lot of discrepancy between the Allied and Japanese combat reports.

For example...

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 5,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2,&nbsp; on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2,&nbsp; on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 8,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
DMS Wasmuth, Bomb hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 5,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage




or


Allied Ships
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 2,&nbsp; on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
AS Pelias, Bomb hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1
DD Helm, Bomb hits 1
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 6,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage
DD Case, Bomb hits 1
DD Selfridge, Bomb hits 1
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 1
DD Henley, Torpedo hits 1,&nbsp; on fire,&nbsp; heavy damage


Is that normal?

[rtrapasso]

Not normal - you have replay/sync bug...

See the "sticky":

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[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Not normal - you have replay/sync bug...

See the "sticky":

fb.asp?m=1686565

OK, cheers.

I think my erstwhile opponent has had this happen before as the first thing he did was say "Double check the combat reports match" [:D].

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Not normal - you have replay/sync bug...

See the "sticky":

fb.asp?m=1686565

OK, cheers.

I think my erstwhile opponent has had this happen before as the first thing he did was say "Double check the combat reports match" [:D].

Follow the instructions on the sticky... reboot, run the turn again without loading anything else except WITP... if your turn comes up the same, the problem may be with the Japanese player, or possibly you have different versions or different map files.

i've found a very common (most common, maybe*) problem is that players tend to run turns sequentially without rebooting, or work on a turn then run it (again without rebooting.) This is a near guaranteed way to get a sync error (although it may be machine dependent).

(*opinions will vary on this point.)

[EUBanana]

Well, we found out that I had a slightly different version number, so we redid the first couple of turns again, with an agreement to do the same thing as before pretty much.

No BBs were sunk at Pearl this time but his casualties went from 40 a/c down to about 10. and the damage on the BBs was much more spread out, so rather than 2 sunk and 4 good to go, I got only one which is in good working order (for now).

The Japanese airfield attacks on Clark Field and Pearl had much greater effect than before (almost 400 hits on Clark Field runway!) so I think they'll be out of commission for quite a while.

Being quite conservative with the first couple of turns to see what he's up to before I start roping up massive convoys only to send them into KBs clutches, so I can't really comment on any Allied strategy yet.&nbsp; There isn't one.&nbsp; [:D]&nbsp;

[EUBanana]

Pretty bad turn.&nbsp; An uber-sub, I-154, positioned just east of Palembang sunk a Dutch ML and the British DM Stronghold with torpedoes, and then dodged the depth charges of a British/Australian TF that went over it.&nbsp; Then for an additional cherry, it sunk an AP.&nbsp; !!!&nbsp; That really hurt.

In addition to that a DD, USS Paul Jones, hit a sub laid mine at Balikpapan and immediately sunk.

In return a Dutch submarine blew the crap out of a loaded AP off the Vietnamese coast and an S-boat, captained by the very best in aggressive sub officers, hit CVE Hosho off San Fernando - unfortunately with a dud torpedo.

The Allied airforce proved completely ineffective, Buffalo sweeps over Singora met the uber-Zeros backed up by some Oscars and suffered.

On the plus side DM Thracian at Hong Kong has actually cleared Manila so might be getting it out of there, and the other Hong Kong DDs have as well.

Pearl got it again though the damage was a bit more muted.&nbsp; The last undamaged battleship took a torpedo so it looks like I'll be down to one US BB, and only then after months of fixing.

Sweeps continue over Singora, I know the Buffalos are outclassed but I want to stay in contact with his airforce at all times and inflict what damage/fatigue I can.&nbsp; Minesweeping efforts are beginning in the DEI as it looks like he's been busy with sub laid mines on turn 1 - the one that hit Balikpapan is not the only one.

I'm going to try and evacuate Dutch base forces from nonessential bases (specially the small ones, of limited use to me or him) and ship them to Palembang so when it falls the oil has more of a chance of getting scragged.&nbsp; I'm pondering moving an HQ there even.&nbsp; Whatcha think?

[EUBanana]

Mmm, some Jap BBs (allegedly) between Talaud Island and Morotai... wonder where they are going.

[EUBanana]

Buffaloes are roughly handled over Singora again, they can't keep this up so are resting.&nbsp; They are achieving little anyway, they havn't done so much as damaged a single defending Oscar or Zero, and have suffered eight losses.&nbsp; One squadron of AVG is going to sweep the place, see if we can get more results with them.&nbsp; A Dutch submarine east of Singora is sunk by ASW (including the Hibiki [:D]).&nbsp; Blenheim IVs did penetrate the CAP and drop bombs with the loss of one bomber in exchange for several damaged Japs but the bombs apparently missed completely.

IJN submarines continue to prove annoying as all hell in the Java Sea, which seems to have a combination of mines scattered everywhere and extremely aggressive and competent IJN sub commanders. Not had any success weeding them out yet.

In the PI mini KB has split up, with CVE Hosho NW of Manila, and the rest south of the PI.&nbsp; Needless to say AKs and APs are blowing up left and right.&nbsp; Those Hong Kong DDs are in there somewhere, they've led a charmed life so far, still touch and go.&nbsp; A British DM left mines near Vigan so that might catch the unwary Jap.&nbsp; [:D]&nbsp;
Another round of landings are going on in the PI, Laoag is captured by a landing force made up of all the AA guns in the world, a handful of tanks, and a lot of base forces.&nbsp; Pretty obvious what is planned here.&nbsp; At the other end of Luzon, at Naga, Yamashiro watches over another force of unknown size as it lands unopposed.&nbsp; An S-boat catches a bomb and will be docking at Manila soon until the flooding has been fixed, then it'll be limping to Australia.
Its crazy-insane but I'm sending a tiny SAG, Boise + Houston + 2 DD, to those landings at Naga.&nbsp; There is no air cover over them and while Yamashiro obviously massively outguns them there are a lot of APs around too and it wouldnt take many 8" or 6" hits to dish out some pain.&nbsp; This SAG needs to get out of the PI now anyway, they may as well "go for it" while they can.

Subs lift cadres out of Hong Kong in the nick of time, I've not pulled out any USAFFE LCUs yet at all but one Fortress squadron has moved from Clark Field to Calcutta (long trip) while it has chance.&nbsp; There are only 3 working heavies there anyway, the Clark airfield has been pretty much eliminated.

Elsewhere Tarawa is invaded by a naval guard unit, and KB is in Unknown Location.

Immediate Allied plans - AP loads the baseforce at Kuching, heads for Palembang. Luzon escapees head for Brunei, planning on a similar move of most of the base force to Palembang (not all, dont want it obvious that its empty, and want some av support left so escapees from PI can trickle over it potentially).&nbsp; Aggressive ASW/demining in the Java Sea.&nbsp; Submarines out of Pearl are being used as minelayers, aimed at Central Pacific atolls.&nbsp; China is quiet, airforce grounded to conserve supply, I'm waiting to see what he does here.

[EUBanana]

India
SEAC units are converging on Calcutta, which is a good spot for R&R.&nbsp; India Command units are staying put atm.&nbsp; SEAC HQ is in the process being transported from Colombo to Calcutta.

Malaysia
He's still not entered Malaysia proper but theres a big angry red cross at Singora.&nbsp; Attempts to do something about it have proven ineffectual, the CAP is too strong.&nbsp; The AVG did a sweep over it and lost 2 Tomahawks to 1 Oscar, which is a lot better than the RAF Buffaloes managed.&nbsp; The RAF is having a much needed day(s) off.

Java Sea
IJN submarines continue to plague me!&nbsp; another AP and another two MLs ([:@]) got torpedoed, the AP sank, the MLs are almost certainly going to.&nbsp; One of the MLs was torpedoed while at Batavia!&nbsp; Thats the cojones being displayed here by the Jap submariners.
ASW assets in the form of US flush deckers are being diverted from the Balikpapan area to the Batavia area.&nbsp; Most of the ASW stuff in the area of the northern Java Sea is on mine removal duty - the field by Palembang has proven to be pretty big, four minesweepers have been working on it for some time.
3 British DDs from Force Z are running ASW sweeps between Kuching and Singkawang.

PI
Three Jap divisions + 3 Jap Bdes in the north of Luzon, one Jap division in the south of Luzon.&nbsp; Not really much I can do here...&nbsp; I'm concentrating at Clark Field rather than be defeated in detail.&nbsp; PTs will be raiding the landing fields again tonight, Houston and Boise will be reaching their rendezvous with death as well.&nbsp; 4E bombers are all flying out to Calcutta, I'm pondering what to do with the other shorter legged aircraft.&nbsp; Not so easy to pull them out.
The exodus of AKs is still proceeding, they've pretty much got away with it atm, losses remarkably light.

Pacific
Pearl is still being fixed.&nbsp; Minelayers en route to Midway Island.&nbsp; All my Catalinas were hit in the nuke that landed on Pearl airfield, so I've not even had the chance to distribute them around the islands yet, so I'm completely blind.

SoPac/Aus
Not much going on here, a Jap submarine is sitting in Rabaul, which stops me parking a SAG on it.&nbsp; Probably a good idea, KB is out there somewhere, maybe they'll end up here soon?

[EUBanana]

Malaysia
Big bombing strike aimed at Victoria Point know he knows the AVG is there.&nbsp; Has little effect, though.&nbsp; The Japs have finally crossed the border, so we're about to find just what it is he's throwing in.

PI
The PT boat raiders manage to be surprised no less than six times in one night by the same Japanese SAG.&nbsp; In a serious "WTF" sort of night engagement.&nbsp; People that stupid deserve to die - and so, they did.
SS Pickerel causes the first Allied hit on a Japanese ship when it torpedoes an AO busy unloading on the beach, got a "FUEL CARGO BURNING" result but no heavy damage so it'll make it.&nbsp; Pickerel endures a million depth charges, all day and all night, but damage is minor.&nbsp; Next day USS Sturgeon torpedoes an AP off Formosa, not heavy damage tho.
In general though the Allied subs have been doing extremely badly.&nbsp; The sea between the PI and Formosa is alive with them, and Jap convoys are sailing back and forth, so there are ample rich pickings here, without any hits. Compared to the uber subs in the Java Sea I am mildly bitter but I figure they must have Gods own escort.


Java Sea/DEI
The sub war continues in the Java Sea, but the Japs just are demons or something.&nbsp; This turn a PG was torpedoed twice and sank, two more MLs were torpedoed and sank (almost all the Dutch MLs are gone now!) and a TK was fired at but the sub missed.&nbsp; On the plus side the minefields the subs laid are almost gone now.&nbsp; There are at least 4 IJN subs in the Java Sea now.&nbsp; Either way we wont be playing Mines in the IO I suspect now.
The effectiveness of a handful of subs was woefully underestimated by me, and the tactic of having ASW TFs chasing them around the map doesn't appear to have been a good one.&nbsp; Note to self: in future, escorts first, hunter killer groups second.

Four Jap TFs around Manado, three NLF units land on it and capture it, the Dutch a/c legged it the day before.

China
Now a week has gone by things are starting to happen.&nbsp; He's attacking guerillas around Anking but the guerillas are inflicting a lot more damage than they are taking, he'll need to commit more.

[gladiatt]

I'me interested in you PBEM , and the way you explain actions/stratégies (without any combat report! cool).
But for better understanding, could you put the date of action ?
Anyway, good play to each of you !

[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: gladiatt


I'me interested in you PBEM , and the way you explain actions/stratégies (without any combat report! cool).
But for better understanding, could you put the date of action ?
Anyway, good play to each of you !

It will be so, I always forget that. [:)]

Next turn is turn 7, so I'll put up some screenies, now week 1 is done.

[EUBanana]

12/12/41

PI&nbsp;
Jap ASW efforts are getting serious in the strait between Formosa and Luzon.&nbsp; One of my psychotically aggressive S-boat captains goes for an 8 ASW Jap APD, and hits.&nbsp; And gets away with it!&nbsp; Later on that day an Ann bombs an S-boat successfully.
Two Jap SAGs engage fleeing AKs - he seems real good at vectoring SAGs into surface engagement on the high seas.&nbsp; 2 AKs and PG Moth are nailed.
The high point though was Houston, Boise and two DDs crashing the party at Naga, on the south of Luzon.&nbsp; DD Sazanaki gets apparently the entire contents of Houstons 8" magazine at 4000 yards, and is blown to bits.&nbsp; Two PGs are raked by 5" from Boise (heavy damage), and some APs catch some 5" or 4.7" shells as well.&nbsp; Houstons armour negated almost all Jap return fire aside from a US DD, USS John D Ford, that catches a few 4.7" and is left on 48 sys.&nbsp; She almost certainly isn't making it out of the PI.
I really shoulda set them on "do not retire".&nbsp; [:D]
Although it surely coulda been worse for the Japs, my erstwhile opponent includes in his email,

Huston and his girlfriend Boise is on my "dead-or-alive" list since now

[:D][:D][:D]
They are almost back at Manila, which is bad.&nbsp; How the hell to get em out of there now...&nbsp; I'm tempted to scatter and cane it East as fast as they can go.&nbsp; If they even live long enough for me to get a choice.
First attempt at smuggling out live cargo from Manila - the combat engineering unit has been transferred to SEAC command and is loaded into an AP.&nbsp; I'd like that in Burma, or even China, where engineers are scarce.&nbsp; In an attempt to assist the escape, about 15 AKs in single or double ship TFs flock around it.&nbsp; Only one target is the money shot, lets hope he doesn't hit it.

Malaysia
The 5th Division with two field arty units and engineers looks like the anti Malaysia force.&nbsp; They are ripping the border guards to bits at Alor Star, almost 300 casualties in the bombardment.
Some confused air engagements here.&nbsp; The AVG at Victoria Point is mostly used in a sweep over Singora, where they cap a couple of Oscars.&nbsp; But a massive Jap airfleet comes and bombs Victoria Point, shooting down 3 Tomahawks from the few defenders left behind, and then, to my surprise, Jap paratroopers start getting shipped over by Topsies, which are shot up real good by AA guns - many damaged, no destroyed unfortunately.
Meanwhile the Allied airforce is over Alor Star, bomb bomb bombing, and unaware that Victoria Point is getting scragged.&nbsp; Well, until they fly home anyway.
Victoria Point almost falls, practically undefended as it is, but doesn't /quite/.&nbsp; Giving the AVG time to get out of there.&nbsp; I choose to send them south, to Singapore, reasoning that given I'm actually shipping things to Singers (oil and supplies from the Dutch bases) they need cover.&nbsp; Singers will be in line for about 7000 oil and 12000 supplies, the convoys (from Java and Palembang) are almost loaded up and ready to sally forth.&nbsp; This time they even have escorts.&nbsp; [:D].&nbsp; I'd love it if that gets landed, that should with any luck draw out the length any siege significantly, representing a 33-45% increase in supply there, depending on how much oil gets processed into supply by the HI.&nbsp;&nbsp; These supplies should be made good by convoys from Australia and Aden, which are already en route to Java.

DEI
Samarinda is being evacced - theres no oil there, and I want the engineers in Balikpapan with their demo charges, where there is.&nbsp; I'm not sure if this strategy is wise, given it'll allow him to concentrate more, but for the shot of damaging his oil I gotta give it a shot.
The first additional baseforce is arriving at Palembang now, from Kuching.&nbsp; It includes a nice 6 inch CD gun, but its the engineers I'm really after.&nbsp; Kuching has been mined and pretty much abandoned, a few British suicide squads remain to deceive the Jap.

[EUBanana]

Oh, and General Percival at Singapore has been fired, and someone competent placed in his stead.

Percival will return to Singapore in time for the surrender ceremonies, needless to say.&nbsp; [:D]

[gladiatt]

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

Oh, and General Percival at Singapore has been fired, and someone competent placed in his stead.

Percival will return to Singapore in time for the surrender ceremonies, needless to say.  [:D]

Sound a good idea !! [:D]
Waiting for update.
But don't feel obliged: it's your game and AAR. First, you must enjoy !
Fine doing in the DEI !

[EUBanana]

12/13/41

PI
I-123 engaged a PI AK east of Balikpapan on the surface, and misses repeatedly, though the AK gets in two 3 inch shell hits on the sub.&nbsp; [:D]
Theres another surface action 3 hexes NE of Jesselton in which another Allied AK is sunk.&nbsp;
USS Searaven torpedoes a Jap DD with dud torpedoes NW of Luzon.
22 Warhawks meet 27 Zeroes over Manila - 7 Warhawks are shot down for no Jap loss.&nbsp; [:(]


Malaysia
A Jap submarine in the Macassar Strait attacks the (very busy) minesweepers there, gets rattled a lot by depth charges and fails to score a hit.
Alor Star is abandoned by the British, he coulda had it any time he wanted.&nbsp; They pull back down the railroad.&nbsp; Might be a premature abandonment (3 forts, there) but I think I can better defend further south.&nbsp; Also he now runs the risk of splitting his forces, as he can down the east or west coast of Malaya.&nbsp; Gives him a level 4 airfield there though.

DEI
Another Jap submarine attempts to torpedo ML Rigel but misses.&nbsp; Rigel has no escort but is in a hex filled with Allied DDs, who do not intervene.&nbsp; Typical.&nbsp; [:(]
ML Sarushima is torpedoed twice by a Dutch sub in Manado harbour.&nbsp; Revenge.&nbsp; [:D]
Slaughter of AKs continues, CL Isuzu on her own runs into 3 AKs in a daylight engagement on the high seas, an AS and 2 AKs are sunk by Jap CVLs, one of which is at Manadao, one by Jesselton.

CentPac
Not much going here, defensive and offensive mining is about it.


Only decisions to make this turn - what to do with the 6 Fortresses in Clark Field, what do do with Houston and Boise.&nbsp; The Forts are set to bomb resources in Formosa, any hit here has a good long term effect, and 6 heavies are really just pi$$ing in the wind bombing targets in the PI.&nbsp; Houston and Boise split up into single ship raider TFs.&nbsp; I send em back to Naga again at full speed with instructions to retire towards Frisco - ie out in the Open Sea.&nbsp; No Betties/Nells on Luzon yet, at least, but there are some at Formosa.&nbsp; It'll take a lot of luck...

[gladiatt]

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

12/13/41




Only decisions to make this turn - what to do with the 6 Fortresses in Clark Field, what do do with Houston and Boise.  The Forts are set to bomb resources in Formosa, any hit here has a good long term effect, and 6 heavies are really just pi$$ing in the wind bombing targets in the PI.  Houston and Boise split up into single ship raider TFs.  I send em back to Naga again at full speed with instructions to retire towards Frisco - ie out in the Open Sea.  No Betties/Nells on Luzon yet, at least, but there are some at Formosa.  It'll take a lot of luck...

Well, if i can just give an advice, and it is from a beginner (don't look at the star pretending i'me a vet: it mean nothing ! [;)] ) :
Why don't get your B-17 out of PI (yeeeh, it's a bit of PP), and put them in place such as Port Moresby to bomb Rabaul (as to support UK troops when the jap invade; or later on the Airfield) or Palembang (to bomb the japs land troops in Malaya) ?
For me it's seems their out-gunned in PI and under constant attack.
But once more it's just a newbie advice...