For the Mods - a wish

Post descriptions of your brilliant successes and unfortunate demises.

Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami

Post Reply
User avatar
vettim89
Posts: 3668
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:38 pm
Location: Toledo, Ohio

For the Mods - a wish

Post by vettim89 »

To the moderators,

If ever there comes a time to update the forums software a very nice and perhaps needed enhancement would be to give the owner of an AAR the ability to delete posts from his AAR. Some times AAR's get hijacked and if the owner of the AAR felt it was too far off topic and did not contribute to the narrative being told, it would be nice to have the ability to delete it. Many contributions from other posters provide valuable insight as to what is going on and have great relavance to the campaign and how its unfolding. Unfortunately I have also seen threads that have digressed into non-game related subjects, debates on important subjects that just don't beling in an AAR, and sometimes personal feuds.

It would be nice as the owner to be able to clean up our AAR's if we so desired. For the record, I have not had this happen in my own AAR but have seen it in others that I follow closely
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
whippleofd
Posts: 617
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:40 am

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by whippleofd »

ORIGINAL: vettim89

To the moderators,

If ever there comes a time to update the forums software a very nice and perhaps needed enhancement would be to give the owner of an AAR the ability to delete posts from his AAR. Some times AAR's get hijacked and if the owner of the AAR felt it was too far off topic and did not contribute to the narrative being told, it would be nice to have the ability to delete it. Many contributions from other posters provide valuable insight as to what is going on and have great relavance to the campaign and how its unfolding. Unfortunately I have also seen threads that have digressed into non-game related subjects, debates on important subjects that just don't beling in an AAR, and sometimes personal feuds.

It would be nice as the owner to be able to clean up our AAR's if we so desired. For the record, I have not had this happen in my own AAR but have seen it in others that I follow closely

Second!

Whipple
MMCS(SW/AW) 1981-2001
1981 RTC, SD
81-82 NPS, Orlando
82-85 NPTU, Idaho Falls
85-90 USS Truxtun (CGN-35)
90-93 USS George Washington (CVN-73)
93-96 NFAS Orlando
96-01 Navsea-08/Naval Reactors
User avatar
Nemo121
Posts: 5838
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:15 am
Contact:

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by Nemo121 »

I think that smacks too much of censorship. I wouldn't agree with everything that is posted to various AARs BUT I think that increasing the ability to censor others' thoughts is too high a price to pay to stop such off-topic posts.... particularly as people's ideas of what is and isn't on-topic do vary.
 
I know the specific exampe you are talking about but I still think the general point over-rides that specific instance. Freedom of speech is too important to chip away at it like this IMO.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Nixuebrig
Posts: 198
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2001 10:00 am
Location: (c) Lübeck, now Berlin

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by Nixuebrig »

I guess to highjack a thread, two persons are needed. Just ignore the posts that don`t fit or give a polite hint that it is not on the topic.

If nobody jumps on it, it will be short lived (the highjacking).
User avatar
VSWG
Posts: 3217
Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 5:04 pm
Location: Germany

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by VSWG »

I agree with Nemo. First step should be that the AAR writer asks all participants to stop their discussions. If that doesn't work (I bet in most cases it will) he can still contact a mod and ask him to censor or delete the posts.
Image
User avatar
vettim89
Posts: 3668
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:38 pm
Location: Toledo, Ohio

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by vettim89 »

My thinking is we have some AAR's that are 30,40,50 even 100 plus pages. Even if you allowed an author to go back say after 10 days and tidy up, it would make it easier for those readers looking at the AAR for the first time to follow the flow better
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
User avatar
jwilkerson
Posts: 8109
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2002 4:02 am
Location: Kansas
Contact:

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by jwilkerson »

ORIGINAL: vettim89

To the moderators,

If ever there comes a time to update the forums software a very nice and perhaps needed enhancement would be to give the owner of an AAR the ability to delete posts from his AAR. Some times AAR's get hijacked and if the owner of the AAR felt it was too far off topic and did not contribute to the narrative being told, it would be nice to have the ability to delete it. Many contributions from other posters provide valuable insight as to what is going on and have great relavance to the campaign and how its unfolding. Unfortunately I have also seen threads that have digressed into non-game related subjects, debates on important subjects that just don't beling in an AAR, and sometimes personal feuds.

It would be nice as the owner to be able to clean up our AAR's if we so desired. For the record, I have not had this happen in my own AAR but have seen it in others that I follow closely

I have intervened in AARs greater than zero times, upon request. But I will say that it causes about as many problems as it solves. Deletion tends to increase the perpetrators resolve to disrupt the AAR, non-deletion tends to accelerate the resignation of the owner to quit the game, or at least to abandon the AAR.

In my experience, the situations requiring moderator intervention are rare. And rare enough that they need to be handled as exceptions rather than as rules.

If any AAR owner feels that there is objectionable intrusion in his AAR - let me know and I will suppport. I do defintely agree with the concept that an AAE belongs to the owner of that AAR - and persons who persistantly disrupt an AAR are defintely not welcome.

Joe
AE Project Lead
SCW Project Lead
Bogo Mil
Posts: 286
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:11 pm

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by Bogo Mil »

If you delete posts, but not all replies to them, it becomes even more confusing to the reader. I agree that deleting posts is usually not a good idea.

Maybe you could give the "owner" of the AAR an option to ban certain users from posting any replies. But this would certainly be quite complicated to implement. I don't think the strain is large enough to justify the effort.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. (Benjamin Franklin)
whippleofd
Posts: 617
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:40 am

RE: For the Mods - a wish

Post by whippleofd »

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: vettim89

To the moderators,

If ever there comes a time to update the forums software a very nice and perhaps needed enhancement would be to give the owner of an AAR the ability to delete posts from his AAR. Some times AAR's get hijacked and if the owner of the AAR felt it was too far off topic and did not contribute to the narrative being told, it would be nice to have the ability to delete it. Many contributions from other posters provide valuable insight as to what is going on and have great relavance to the campaign and how its unfolding. Unfortunately I have also seen threads that have digressed into non-game related subjects, debates on important subjects that just don't beling in an AAR, and sometimes personal feuds.

It would be nice as the owner to be able to clean up our AAR's if we so desired. For the record, I have not had this happen in my own AAR but have seen it in others that I follow closely

I have intervened in AARs greater than zero times, upon request. But I will say that it causes about as many problems as it solves. Deletion tends to increase the perpetrators resolve to disrupt the AAR, non-deletion tends to accelerate the resignation of the owner to quit the game, or at least to abandon the AAR.

In my experience, the situations requiring moderator intervention are rare. And rare enough that they need to be handled as exceptions rather than as rules.

If any AAR owner feels that there is objectionable intrusion in his AAR - let me know and I will suppport. I do defintely agree with the concept that an AAE belongs to the owner of that AAR - and persons who persistantly disrupt an AAR are defintely not welcome.

Joe

Can't ask for better support than that!

Whipple
MMCS(SW/AW) 1981-2001
1981 RTC, SD
81-82 NPS, Orlando
82-85 NPTU, Idaho Falls
85-90 USS Truxtun (CGN-35)
90-93 USS George Washington (CVN-73)
93-96 NFAS Orlando
96-01 Navsea-08/Naval Reactors
Post Reply

Return to “After Action Reports”