ASW and Radar Equipped DD's

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GreasyLake
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ASW and Radar Equipped DD's

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Just wondering if anyone knows if there is any advantage coded into the game for radar equipped DD's in hitting/spotting enemy subs as part of ASW TF.

I would rather save them for CV escort duties if not. I am assuming they can spot enemy aircraft and surface vessels at or near their stated ranges. Kinda chancey for spotting periscopes but I believe it did occur.

I have read accounts IRL where German subs were constantly harassed by radar equipped aircraft coming out of nowhere. Again not sure how the game is programmed.

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RE: ASW and Radar Equipped DD's

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Should be an advantage, but i've never read of anyone conducting a test... certainly radar equipped SUBS have an advantage in conducting attacks and avoiding escorts.
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RE: ASW and Radar Equipped DD's

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Don't know about the radar equipped escorts having an advantage.  I do know this though:
 
1) A/c equipped with surface search radar (PEN=0) have no special advantage to spotting and attacking subs.
2) Subs equipped with air search radar (PEN=500) have no special advantage avoiding a/c search and attacks.
3) Subs with surface search radar have an advantage in contacting passing TFs and attacking them.
 
I tested this about 2 months ago, ran about 40-50 turns of data and filed it away somewhere.
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RE: ASW and Radar Equipped DD's

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Interesting.

I did test subs with air search radars years ago, and they seemed to get only about 25% of hits that they got without air search radar. That is, number of attacks was about same, just that they were hit only 25% of time. Which would indicate that it gave some advantage avoiding being hit.
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RE: ASW and Radar Equipped DD's

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GreasyLake, I know this wasn't exactly what you were asking, but I thought I'd note this. Japanese Type 13 Radar was supposed to be fixed in 1.806.
 
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[font="times new roman"]Item[/b] 3 – As an interim measure, until the scenario data can be updated, correct the Type 13 radar (device 139) to have penetration=500 thus enabling it to function as an air search radar.  This change will be removed once the scenario data is corrected. [/font]
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