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Historical Flag Mod Coming?

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We all know German law on this but I know we had the historical Nazi flag 1 day after WitE came out. Hopefully one of you artsy guys are getting this done? Thanks in advance!
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Hello

I have made a quick version of it. It is not ideal but it will get you started.

I have kept the Original files (named original) in case you need them and forget to backup them or don't use JSGME to install your mods [;)]
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thanks I hope its ok I upload them in our community group
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ORIGINAL: fritzfarlig

thanks I hope its ok I upload them in our community group

Absolutely. Please feel free to share, edit, alter to your heart's content [:)]
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ORIGINAL: actrade

We all know German law on this but I know we had the historical Nazi flag 1 day after WitE came out. Hopefully one of you artsy guys are getting this done? Thanks in advance!
Actually the law was changed almost three years ago. I don't know why many software houses still apply it, but I guess it is their choice.

Germany lifts total ban on Nazi symbols in video games
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45142651
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ORIGINAL: actrade

We all know German law on this but I know we had the historical Nazi flag 1 day after WitE came out. Hopefully one of you artsy guys are getting this done? Thanks in advance!

Germany lifted its ban on the use of Nazi symbols in historical computer games in 2018, so I don’t know which law you mean, is there an EU law on this?.
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ORIGINAL: Hanny
ORIGINAL: actrade

We all know German law on this but I know we had the historical Nazi flag 1 day after WitE came out. Hopefully one of you artsy guys are getting this done? Thanks in advance!

Germany lifted its ban on the use of Nazi symbols in historical computer games in 2018, so I don’t know which law you mean, is there an EU law on this?.
There was never a EU law. Germany was, IIRC, the sole exception.
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We all know German law on this but I know we had the historical Nazi flag 1 day after WitE came out. Hopefully one of you artsy guys are getting this done? Thanks in advance!

Germany lifted its ban on the use of Nazi symbols in historical computer games in 2018, so I don’t know which law you mean, is there an EU law on this?.
There was never a EU law. Germany was, IIRC, the sole exception.

Ok, ta, so it’s in reference to the imposed ban on Nazi symbols imposed on West Germany as part of post war Allied de Nazification, maintained by Germany ever since, and from 2018 has relaxed it for computer games, and other media.
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In any event....the mod works great. Thanks!
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The new legislation always leads to misunderstandings.

1. The depiction of swastikas and other symbols and signs from the Nazi era are permitted in games if they are in a historical context.
It is still forbidden and punishable to display and use it if they glorify, prais or play down the Nazi era and/or those responsible.

2. It is also often misunderstood: the flag offered here is the flag of the Nazi party, the NSDAP.
It is not the so-called Reichskriegsflagge (Reich War Flag) 1935 to 1945, the flag for wartime.

Personally, I believe that War in the X does not glorify anything from this period, that the Reichskriegsflagge and the SS runes add to the historically accurate overall picture.

Many would like the historical Reichskriegsflagge 1935 to 1945 as a good quality mod, and also the SS officers in the game to be clearly identified by the SS runes.
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ORIGINAL: Templer_12

The new legislation always leads to misunderstandings.

1. The depiction of swastikas and other symbols and signs from the Nazi era are permitted in games if they are in a historical context.
It is still forbidden and punishable to display and use it if they glorify, prais or play down the Nazi era and/or those responsible.

2. It is also often misunderstood: the flag offered here is the flag of the Nazi party, the NSDAP.
It is not the so-called Reichskriegsflagge (Reich War Flag) 1935 to 1945, the flag for wartime.

Personally, I believe that War in the X does not glorify anything from this period, that the Reichskriegsflagge and the SS runes add to the historically accurate overall picture.

Many would like the historical Reichskriegsflagge 1935 to 1945 as a good quality mod, and also the SS officers in the game to be clearly identified by the SS runes.

I totally agree with your points.

I have attached the Reichskriegsflagge in case anyone prefers it (JSGME-ready for those who use it)

Please feel free to alter, edit, change and share to your heart's content [:)]
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Das Reichsflaggengesetz vom 15. September 1935 besagte:

„Die Reichsfarben sind Schwarz-Weiß-Rot.“
– Reichsflaggengesetz, Artikel 1
„Reichs- und Nationalflagge ist die Hakenkreuzflagge. Sie ist zugleich Handelsflagge.“
– Reichsflaggengesetz, Artikel 2
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Added the national flag into top right corner UI panel and Axis Iniative panel.
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Thank you very much.

Now I can start the offensive [;)][:)]
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ORIGINAL: melnibonian
ORIGINAL: Templer_12

The new legislation always leads to misunderstandings.

1. The depiction of swastikas and other symbols and signs from the Nazi era are permitted in games if they are in a historical context.
It is still forbidden and punishable to display and use it if they glorify, prais or play down the Nazi era and/or those responsible.

2. It is also often misunderstood: the flag offered here is the flag of the Nazi party, the NSDAP.
It is not the so-called Reichskriegsflagge (Reich War Flag) 1935 to 1945, the flag for wartime.

Personally, I believe that War in the X does not glorify anything from this period, that the Reichskriegsflagge and the SS runes add to the historically accurate overall picture.

Many would like the historical Reichskriegsflagge 1935 to 1945 as a good quality mod, and also the SS officers in the game to be clearly identified by the SS runes.

I totally agree with your points.

I have attached the Reichskriegsflagge in case anyone prefers it (JSGME-ready for those who use it)

Please feel free to alter, edit, change and share to your heart's content [:)]
This is great, thank you. Is there any chance you could upload a Reichskriegsflagge equivalent to the above "top right corner UI" and "Axis Initiative" panel mods?
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Thanks for sharing the mod. I added it to my install.
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Thanks for this! I still find it curious that it's considered quite acceptable to use the historical insignia for, say, the Soviet Union which was even more murderous than Nazi Germany (which is saying quite a bit!), but heaven forbid a historical flag for Germany sneak its way into a historical wargame. [&:]
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Thanks for this![&o][&o][&o]
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ORIGINAL: MishaTX

Thanks for this! I still find it curious that it's considered quite acceptable to use the historical insignia for, say, the Soviet Union which was even more murderous than Nazi Germany (which is saying quite a bit!), but heaven forbid a historical flag for Germany sneak its way into a historical wargame. [&:]

Legal and political reasons. Some laws have changed in Germany but there's still lots of regulations in other countries and they vary across the board. Much easier to just let players add it in themselves versus risking any issues.

Although to your point, Soviet symbolism is banned in Ukraine, as well. Mortal Kombat 11 got pulled from that country because of Soviet symbolism. But that's a more recent law and the only one I'm aware of that applies to Soviet symbolism in games.
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Worked like a charm! Thank you to all the moders!
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