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Hi can any one explain to me why such things happen
I got a CV tf with two 24 Zero's Fighter Squadrons set on CAP 90% + i Ordered 3 Zero Dentai's thats over 70 Zero's to Fly LR CAP over my CV TF ok the Replay Runs....
CV TF gets Attacked and the CAP over it is 20 Zero's [&:][&:][:@][:@] My CV's got Sunk and game over... when i Chcek those 3 Zero dentais 2 are still Set on LRCAP but the target is missing and the third is set on training... what the hell[&:] i checked the bases i flown from had good weather in both AM and PM phases... their morale is 60 or higher...
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Whatever...There is a widespread belif that LRCAP shoul only be used for LRCAP. So LRCAP on range 0 isn't very likely to be succesful and it's better to keep the fighters on 90% CAP + escort.
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hmmm im not quite sure you understand me...
The fighters on the carriers were set to escort and CAP lv on 90% and the fighters in the ground base were set on LR cap targeting the CV TF and their range set on 11 hexes
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hmmm im not quite sure you understand me...
The fighters on the carriers were set to escort and CAP lv on 90% and the fighters in the ground base were set on LR cap targeting the CV TF and their range set on 11 hexes

wat was the range of your base to your carriers?, LRcap decreases in effectivity of langer range and does not fly at extended range....
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well they were at Maccasar(?) western tip of Celebes and the CV Tf was in the hex with allied base S of Soreboja and BTW where is my turn... as im goeing out about 14pm and i wount get back before 22pm[:D]
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well they were at Maccasar(?) western tip of Celebes and the CV Tf was in the hex with allied base S of Soreboja and BTW where is my turn... as im goeing out about 14pm and i wount get back before 22pm

you have your turn in your inbox right now....
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nope my box is empty[:D]
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ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

when i Chcek those 3 Zero dentais 2 are still Set on LRCAP but the target is missing and the third is set on training... what the hell[&:] i checked the bases i flown from had good weather in both AM and PM phases... their morale is 60 or higher...
Well, your LRCAP didn't fly because the settings were not correct, somehow, as you explained above. Don't know if it was operator error or game error.

However, even had the settings been correct, your LRCAP was flying too far to be effective. LRCAP more than a couple of hexes away just isn't that effective. This makes since. In reality the planes have to expend large amounts of fuel reaching their target, so their ability effectively cover an area is poor. An air group might compensate for this by sending up different squadrons at different times of day, but in reality they just aren't over a target long enough to provide effective cover. This was often the case in real life. LRCAP that did fly all the time over a distant hex would be unrealistic.
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Isn't there also a built in limit on the efficiency of land based LRCAP over carrier groups? Something like "coordination difficulties" is invoked to make land based CAP only 10% effective over carrier air groups?

I suspect it's there to prevent the players stacking, say, 200 Raboul based zeros over the death star in 1942.
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There is a penalty for LRCAP flying over a carrier TF, but i'm not sure about percentage. It could be 50% IIRC.
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ORIGINAL: Dino

There is a penalty for LRCAP flying over a carrier TF, but i'm not sure about percentage. It could be 50% IIRC.

According to the manual (I just looked it up) LRCAP over an Air Combat task force is only 20% as effective as it would ordinarily be.
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I Think your TF is out of LRCAP range for the Zero (8) you don't have any advice probably because if in the movement the TF enter in the range the LRcap fly correctly
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