First ever robot assault in war.

[altipueri]

Well, we need new games it seems:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... an-troops/

Good luck and best wishes to all.

[Kuokkanen]

How so? Remote controlled drones has been a thing in war games for decades by now. Just today I played one.

[altipueri]

There's quite a lot of discussion on what has happened to warfare on the Battlefront forum:

https://community.battlefront.com/topic ... page/3960/

From a post on that page:

"So here is the thing. If I am sending unmanned systems in as the breakthrough force…why do I need to wait for human infantry? We just saw a drone burn out a Russian dugout. Why do I need a 19 yr old with a grenade to do the same? My bet is an infantry platoon’s day is going to be very different from here on out. Much will be recognizable but in other ways it will fundamentally change. We will likely see echelons. Unmanned forces leading, so all those human troops and machines will have only one job = go chase enemy infantry enemy and vehicles all day. Then we will see a manned echelon with specialized jobs to clear and hold ground. I have no idea what a breakthrough will look like but if this war is an indication we will likely see light forces running ahead with unmanned while heavy deals with hardpoints and flanks. Heavy forces cannot even get into the game until enemy long range strike is neutralized so that leading edge need to push out a long way.

All that sounds great until an opponent has the same system. Then we have leading edge unmanned colliding…and I have no freaking idea what that looks like.

So here we are. I find all the tank lust/hate is frankly narrow minded. An entire land warfare methodology is in the wind right now. My central argument has always been “stay light on the feet” and avoid getting pinned down under our own weight. Because the game can change a lot in the next ten years - if not the next ten months. "

[altipueri]

And another first - a sea drone shoots down a helicopter.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... irst-time/

[ernieschwitz]

I like old sci-fi novels. One of them written by the Great Isaac Asimov, was made before the drop of the nuclear bomb, but still during world war 2. In it he posits that Adolf gets exiled to Madagascar, like Napoleon too was exiled (to other Islands though). He also posits that there will be a form of nuclear rain, or small bombs, and people will just disappear, vanish without any trace. My point is, he did not see the future as it would be, and he was only a few years from it. He had training in physics too.

I also had a friend who would use his skills as a hacker in 2000/05 if there came a world war. Today we know there will likely not be internet in a country at war, unless star link is something you have access to. More likely there will be hybrid war going on, BEFORE it, where such a person would be needed.

Things change rapidly it is true, but there are also things that don't. One of them is economics. Yes, sure a robot might cost less than a tank, but, a grunt still costs less than a robot. While the tank may disappear, or not, the grunt will live on. What his role will be is completely unknown, but there is a long way to wars fought strictly with robots, and people directing them from afar.

There's quite a lot of discussion on what has happened to warfare on the Battlefront forum:

https://community.battlefront.com/topic ... page/3960/

From a post on that page:

"So here is the thing. If I am sending unmanned systems in as the breakthrough force…why do I need to wait for human infantry? We just saw a drone burn out a Russian dugout. Why do I need a 19 yr old with a grenade to do the same? My bet is an infantry platoon’s day is going to be very different from here on out. Much will be recognizable but in other ways it will fundamentally change. We will likely see echelons. Unmanned forces leading, so all those human troops and machines will have only one job = go chase enemy infantry enemy and vehicles all day. Then we will see a manned echelon with specialized jobs to clear and hold ground. I have no idea what a breakthrough will look like but if this war is an indication we will likely see light forces running ahead with unmanned while heavy deals with hardpoints and flanks. Heavy forces cannot even get into the game until enemy long range strike is neutralized so that leading edge need to push out a long way.

All that sounds great until an opponent has the same system. Then we have leading edge unmanned colliding…and I have no freaking idea what that looks like.

So here we are. I find all the tank lust/hate is frankly narrow minded. An entire land warfare methodology is in the wind right now. My central argument has always been “stay light on the feet” and avoid getting pinned down under our own weight. Because the game can change a lot in the next ten years - if not the next ten months. "

[sPzAbt653]

The Ice Pirates [1984] was a fun 'B' film that portrayed robots as the first line, and if they failed in their objective then the humans would step in. I thought it was an interesting take on the natural progression of combat - technology can be of great assistance, but humans may often be required to finish the job.

I'd like to discuss the portrayal of robots in film, it is one of my favorite topics. Robots are often portrayed as childlike or even dumb. These are human traits not those of a computer, so I find it probably unrealistic. It seems more likely that robots would behave as in Runaway [also from 1984] or Humans [2015-2018].

[gamer78]

I think refugee AI is better than any drones or robots.. better than actual AI in wargames.