Chaos45(AX) vs TacticalStats(SOV)

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Hi
You seem to have 2nd Pz Armee spread far and wide is its ArmeeKorps withing the 15 hex limit, one Korps is a far as The Caucasus !

[chaos45]

Yes the corps south of Rostov is out of command range the armee HQ is still within 15 hexes of the other 3 corps....later on in the month i reorganize armies slightly and get that panzer army abit more condensed but do leave the one corps on its own lol...only so many German Army HQs to go around and they are all maxed out and some even over.....notice I have like 3 corps in my center all going directly to AGC

When March hit I wanted to start striking back and burning down soviet OOB as fast as possible so with all the attacking and advancing of 2 months armies got abit mixed up...as I get towards June I start to reorganize some...as well the panzer army has alot of infantry as I sent most of the panzers to the west for the winter and only brought them into action in the east in april after the winter penalties ended aside from some panzer divisions at Kallinin and Tula which were needed to make sure we didnt get pushed back from those areas.

Good thing is German corps commanders are typically 6+ skill so can actually make the rolls over 50% of the time without an army re-roll being needed

[chaos45]

10MAY1942:

North- Kallinin falls and general Axis offensive grinds forward into soviet defenses.

Center- General attacks hits basically a double wall of soviet fort/stacks but makes progress

South- Make progress at Flanking Voronezh with 2 panzer corps

Far South- advance continues easily towards Krosnodar

[chaos45]

10MAY1942 game stats

[chaos45]

17MAY1942-
North- continued assaults pushing the lines around Kallinin

Center- alot of assaults into stacks of Soviets east of Tula

South- Drive on Stalingrad commences in strength with a panzer corps and axis allied panzer corps forming a nice breakthrough on the way to stalingrad.

Deep South- Krasnador is reached and oil facilities put into repair.

[chaos45]

17MAY1942

Key stats- Soviet losses continue to be heavy, Axis OOB is maintaining strength.

I would say---Axis replacements seem to be generous really---even losing 40k men per week between axis allies absorbing a chunk of the losses, German replacements and HIWIs from PoWs replacing 40k losses per week doesn't seem to be an issue.

[chaos45]

Next may turn think i got the date wrong lol---23rd/27th IDK lol March 1942

North- more fighting around Kallinin

Center- more fighting east of Tula

South Managed to get a pocket of soviet units using some herding to keep them to the East and into the pocket. This should clear the way to stalingrad.

[chaos45]

23/27MAR1942 key stats---some date in that area lol

Again heavy soviet losses and decent axis losses---but 40k per week for axis in 1942 seems to be easily sustainable.

Soviets are probably only getting maybe 100-110k men per week even with disabled returns. So soviet loss rate is unsustainable while Axis is fine.

IMO honest opinion Soviet replacement rates for 1941 and 1942 are tad to low just my 2 cents...esp with how many losses the Germans can inflict from basically just frontally attacking all the time.

[chaos45]

June 7, 1942 turn

North- continued assaults to the north and just to the south of Kallinin.

Center- More assaults to the NE of Tula

Rest- General advance taking what the soviets give up and attacking when possible.

[chaos45]

Key stats June 7th, 1942

Losses remain fairly one-sided with German OOB steady and Soviet OOB dropping some

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Army Group South is a interesting mix !

2nd Pz Armee ( minus 1 Armeekorps which seems to be committed to Krasnodar ) driving on Stalingrad
1 Pz Korps from 1st Pz Armee comprised of Axis Allies attacking Stalingrad
11th Armee with Panzer units ( possibly a Pz Korps attached ) again concentrating on Krasnodar

And your 4 Axis Allied Army's spearheading your advance into The Caucuses, BOLD, impressive, I like it

Good luck

[chaos45]

Was a misclick-----was supposed to be 2nd pz armee- light blue panzer army lol........1 Pz Korps from 1st Pz Armee comprised of Axis Allies attacking Stalingrad---had these misclick on command changes a couple times in this game...its been far from a perfect axis game and you see the results--Axis OP lol(axis losses really are to low and soviet replacements prolly to low balance wise IMO)- Look at disabled returns alone----I get 1 axis soldier back for every 2 soviets hes getting back but the exchange ratio in the turn is usually close to 4+:1 axis to soviets as well by 1942 so many manpower points have been lost by the soviets the weekly replacement rate is only about 100k men if that as they lose more ground....yes you get some disabled returns but at a 1:2 rate its not enough to make up for the 4+:1 exchange rate in losses.

I fixed the command the next turn.

An yes due to command point limits the chain of command is abit ad hoc in the south as I still have many very strong armies slugging away to the north and south of Moscow---this has in turn drawn the majority of his forces into the fighting at Moscow and its areas leaving the south fairly lightly defended.

I dont fault him as isnt much he can really do about it but try to conserve forces abit more than he has and give space....he starts to do this in future as his OOB starts to drop in chunks in a couple turns from combat so he needs the space to rebuild---but also cant give up space at Moscow really so heavy losses continue esp to the NE of Tula.

[chaos45]

As to axis allies--notice germans are holding the main rail line advances axis allied are the more distance flank support in area where the soviets would also have trouble supplying any real combat forces---

2nd- you want to take losses on the axis allies---those disabled feed back into a % of german replacements and if you lose Axis allies taking out soviets its a double win--they took out some soviets and you got probably some german replacements out of it.

Yes the soviets get some wins here and there but attrition is really how you win WITE.

[chaos45]

Skipping forward some as stuff is happening but not much major other than the Soviets giving ground in the south.

July 5th, 1942 turn:

North:Close up on the major river line protecting the North of Moscow and start building up to eventually assault across

Center: A couple assaults to get some ground over the OKA to the S/SE of Moscow

South: Stalingrad taken and forces advancing on Grozny

[chaos45]

July 5th, 1942 key numbers:

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Anything more on this one?

[chaos45]

1st Week of August 1942 update.

Decided to move the updates to a monthly or so format as things arent completely stagnant but just slowly slogging forward. At this point the higher requirements for the other fronts are starting to drain forces from the eastern front so its getting close to probably max safe expansion of the German offensive.....as well in September the soviets get almost another 500k replacements so will push him back to about 5.5M men right as mud hits and he will get to rebuild alot more so for 1943 will be facing a much stronger soviet army.

All in all been playing this fairly historically and its about that other than the loss of leningrad---I think the way the current game works against good German play its almost impossible to hold leningrad----as you risk losing moscow if you send to many soviet forces to leningrad needed to actually hold it.....as well IMO the soviet units crumble much to easily in 1941 vs a good German player just my 2 cents.

Anyway August 1942.

AG North- far north is mostly stagnant- slowly rebuilding rail to get more easy and sceening forces in the northern waste and a couple real corps pushing the rail line

AG Norths--panzers and offensive infantry armies continue to push/pound forward into the northern flank of the moscow defensive lines

AG Center---continues hard push on the central defenses of moscow and continues pressing hard against the southern flank of the moscow defenses

AG South- Continues some pressure toward saratov and works to improve positions around Stalingard. Astrahkan is taken anda soviet counteroffensive to the SE of Stalingrad is countered and driven back by a mixed panzer corps of Hungarians/Romanians/Slovakians/Germans lol. Hungarians took some decent losses from soviet attacks but they have tons of replacements so no issues.

AG A/Far south- Soviet resistance is pretty weak as most soviets forces are basically pulled into the heavy fighting around moscow...so German/axis allied advance continues Makhchkala being the primary target with the panzer corps assisting efforts in that direction.

Production and replacements for the Germans/Axis allies arent really proving to be an issue--taking 40k+ losses per turn as axis and replacement pools are staying good for all nations---German has been sitting between 80-90k Manpower in the pool every turn so seems you can bleed 40k-50k axis losses per turn with no issues due to the wounded return/manpower/and HIWIs...you get a fair chunk of hiwi replacements about 400k total at this point in the war.....

[chaos45]

August 1942 key numbers

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Wouldn't be surprised if the Soviets have 10,000 tanks in the pool based on those numbers. It's a bit of work to bring them on map but it can really make a difference.

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1st Week of August 1942 update.

Decided to move the updates to a monthly or so format as things arent completely stagnant but just slowly slogging forward. At this point the higher requirements for the other fronts are starting to drain forces from the eastern front so its getting close to probably max safe expansion of the German offensive.....as well in September the soviets get almost another 500k replacements so will push him back to about 5.5M men right as mud hits and he will get to rebuild alot more so for 1943 will be facing a much stronger soviet army.

All in all been playing this fairly historically and its about that other than the loss of leningrad---I think the way the current game works against good German play its almost impossible to hold leningrad----as you risk losing moscow if you send to many soviet forces to leningrad needed to actually hold it.....as well IMO the soviet units crumble much to easily in 1941 vs a good German player just my 2 cents.

Anyway August 1942.

AG North- far north is mostly stagnant- slowly rebuilding rail to get more easy and sceening forces in the northern waste and a couple real corps pushing the rail line

AG Norths--panzers and offensive infantry armies continue to push/pound forward into the northern flank of the moscow defensive lines

AG Center---continues hard push on the central defenses of moscow and continues pressing hard against the southern flank of the moscow defenses

AG South- Continues some pressure toward saratov and works to improve positions around Stalingard. Astrahkan is taken anda soviet counteroffensive to the SE of Stalingrad is countered and driven back by a mixed panzer corps of Hungarians/Romanians/Slovakians/Germans lol. Hungarians took some decent losses from soviet attacks but they have tons of replacements so no issues.

AG A/Far south- Soviet resistance is pretty weak as most soviets forces are basically pulled into the heavy fighting around moscow...so German/axis allied advance continues Makhchkala being the primary target with the panzer corps assisting efforts in that direction.

Production and replacements for the Germans/Axis allies arent really proving to be an issue--taking 40k+ losses per turn as axis and replacement pools are staying good for all nations---German has been sitting between 80-90k Manpower in the pool every turn so seems you can bleed 40k-50k axis losses per turn with no issues due to the wounded return/manpower/and HIWIs...you get a fair chunk of hiwi replacements about 400k total at this point in the war.....

That's a huge salient around the defence of Moscow if only you break through on both fronts, that would be a massive encirclement that would have to finish the Red Army or cripple it.