Why selling incomplete DLCs?

[pkj0330]

Updates to the game are important, but DLC is also important.

The scenarios that need to be fixed are as follows.

Kashmir fire DLC
Shoreline - enemy carrier have many barrak 8 missiles
Over the hump - china h-6 bomber fey mission not working

Falklands DLC
Peble island raid - score problem
The empire strikes back - carrier magazine empty
Operation mikado - carrier magazine empty

[Deserere]

Hi pkj0330,
thanks for reporting the issues.
Can you, please, provide us with a savefile per issue so we can investigate everything?
Thanks
Is also a better idea to create one thread per issue instead of grouping multiple issues into one single thread.
As per guidelines is also a good idea to detailed the issues as much as possible, so instead of a general "enemy carrier have many barrak 8 missiles" a more detailed explanation of what you are seeing and the expected behavior.

thanks for your kind cooperation in making this game (updates and DLCs) better

[Dimitris]

[pkj0330]

The development team doesn't seem to care about DLC at all after releasing it.

I've been saying this for a long time, but it hasn't been fixed.

[CV60]

The development team doesn't seem to care about DLC at all after releasing it.

I've been saying this for a long time, but it hasn't been fixed.

I think you are making an unwarranted assumption here. The team has recently put out the "tiny" update (for free) which added numerous additions and fixes. In doing so some scenarios have been broken, which requires the authors of the scenarios to make fixes. In some cases, the fixes are trying to hit a moving target, since the tiny update itself is still changing.

Based on the significant additional and free content the team has put in that a better assumption is that they care deeply about the game and the customers, and that they are moving as fast as they can in correcting these issues. Based on this assumption, simply putting in a bug report with a save game file to alert them to the problem is the best, and most charitable course of action.

[pkj0330]

I know that the development team worked hard for tiny update.

but, DLC is charged. Isn't it a problem that I can't enjoy DLC even after paying for it?

I bought Falklands DLC. However, I can't play the 'the empire strike back' scenario because of the problem that the HMS Ark royal's carrier magazine is empty.

Honestly, I feel cheated.

[CV60]

I know that the development team worked hard for tiny update.

but, DLC is charged. Isn't it a problem that I can't enjoy DLC even after paying for it?

I bought Falklands DLC. However, I can't play the 'the empire strike back' scenario because of the problem that the HMS Ark royal's carrier magazine is empty.

Honestly, I feel cheated.

No question that you are entitled to a DLC that works. The issue is your statement "The development team doesn't seem to care about DLC at all after releasing it." We both seem to agree that the team is in fact working hard. Based on this fact, my recommendation is to be more charitable, and put in a bug report. If, after a reasonable period of time (4-6 weeks) the issue isn't fixed, then nicely elevate it.

[thewood1]

Here are the two bonus scenarios with the ini file applied that rebuilds the carrier magazines. I suspect something happened in the upgrade to tiny that muffed up the use of the ini file.

Should hold you over on those two until the official fix is in. All I did was select upgrade with deep rebuild using the ini file. Took all of 10 seconds each.

The other scenarios are simple fixes also and when Ihave a chance I'll fox those also.

[pkj0330]

In February, I discovered this problem and posted it on command:falklands Forum.

It's April now. It's been a month and the problem hasn't been solved.

DLC is a paid content, so please pay attention to the quality.

[Kushan04]

Shoreline - enemy carrier have many barrak 8 missiles

That's not a bug, at least not with the scenario. According to its DB entry it has two 32-cell Barrak 8 missiles, that's 64 missiles total. Exactly what it has.

All the others are fixed and will be included in a future update.

[SchDerGrosse]

The game is riddled with bugs right now.

The tiny update pretty much broke a bunch of the scenarios (at least I think this is what happened).

Due to the diligence of the playerbase things are slowly getting patched but it is a long way ahead till all the paid DLCs become bug free once again.

(and before you ask, yes I am doing my part, Iand keep making posts in the tech support forum)

[Dimitris]

The game is riddled with bugs right now.

The tiny update pretty much broke a bunch of the scenarios (at least I think this is what happened).

In case anybody has not already read this: https://m.signalvnoise.com/software-has ... is-normal/

[SchDerGrosse]

The game is riddled with bugs right now.

The tiny update pretty much broke a bunch of the scenarios (at least I think this is what happened).

In case anybody has not already read this: https://m.signalvnoise.com/software-has ... is-normal/

Cant argue with that.

Luckily CMO has a legion of unpaid beta testers so things will work out eventually.

Sorry Dimitris but gotta run now. In my current Queen Elizabeth game the Chinese side "forgot" to turn into hostile despite me attacking them. Nevermind though, I will just hop into the editor and fix it for myself so I can continue to play the game. I have always been a DIY guy after all!

[Uzabit]

I think that encountering bugs is quite expected in such a project. With the regular addition of new features, things are more likely to break. In contrast, a game with a fixed scope and content where only final polishing is required would be different.

Personally, I prefer CMO to be in continuous development, even if it means that old things break and need to be fixed again. A game with a closed scope becomes uninteresting much faster.

[cristianwj]

The problem is some scenario need to fix some bugs before put it on the shelter for sale.
I have heard some complainments about Showcase QE and Kashmir Fire, and also checked the scenario in the edit by myself. I think the problem did exist.
Thanks for the free update for the game. Is there any possibility for players to select versions if new mechanism introduced in the game. Some old scenarios broken after the latest update released.

[Dimitris]

Is there any possibility for players to select versions if new mechanism introduced in the game. Some old scenarios broken after the latest update released.

When relevant, we strive to make potentially-breaking additions optional (and off-by-default for existing scenarios) so that they don't break gameplay on existing works. This is why the list of items on the "Scenario realism features" window grows continuously. It's not always possible to maintain both options (e.g. the new missile kinematics are here to stay, period) but it's always on our mind.

If you can give us specific examples of what-broke-what, we can examine it.