Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Kimura]

What about JLENS-Blimps?

Greetings to all!

[thewood1]

ORIGINAL: Kimura

What about JLENS-Blimps?

Greetings to all!

What about them?

[Filitch]

Too strange, that Russian Sukhoi-27 family (Su-30, Su-35S) crafts have no property "Supermanouverability". In same time such crafts as any version Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon (from 200X) have this property.

When this is "Supermanouverability": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_pcTK5Dd4 than this is Star Wars level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6juBT6EnUIc or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EmHoRGm4_w?

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Filitch

Too strange, that Russian Sukhoi-27 family (Su-30, Su-35S) crafts have no property "Supermanouverability". In same time such crafts as any version Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon (from 200X) have this property.

I guess that is because the 3D TVC for Su-35S and Su-30MKI (India) doesn't have the same climb sharpness as 2D TVC does? The Rafale would sound strange to have supermaneuevrability without TVC, and canards should't do much of it (otherwise J-10 and J-20 will also considered Supermaneuverable too).

Another reason is Su-35's aerobatic stunts is performed without any ordinance, and never seen it can do the same with full-arms. Also the US-India Air Force drill long ago also mentioned the Indian Su-30MKI's TVC doesn't give them much of turning advantage when pitting against F-15.

[Filitch]

ORIGINAL: Dysta
I guess that is because the 3D TVC for Su-35S and Su-30MKI (India) doesn't have the same climb sharpness as 2D TVC does?

But 3D TVC in summary is more powerful than 2D.

ORIGINAL: Dysta
The Rafale would sound strange to have supermaneuevrability without TVC, and canards should't do much of it (otherwise J-10 and J-20 will also considered Supermaneuverable too).

I agree - very, very strange.

ORIGINAL: Dysta
Another reason is Su-35's aerobatic stunts is performed without any ordinance, and never seen it can do the same with full-arms.

As far as I see - Rafale and Typhoon perform aerobatic without ordinance too. Taking in account that Rafale don't takes off without drop tanks I think that his supermaneuverability in real life not so good as in CMANO DB.

[Owllord]

Could a SEAD loadout for the SU-25T be considered? Going purely off of the representation in DCS:

L-081 Fantasmagoria
MPS-410 DECM
Kh-25MPU
Kh-58U

[KLAB]

http://www.janes.com/article/73149/chin ... ts-contest
For consideration,
Can't check DB at the moment with no PC but from memory the J-10 has got a SEAD load but don't recall the role specific ESM pod that's mentioned in the article.
Cheers.
K

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: KLAB

http://www.janes.com/article/73149/chin ... ts-contest
For consideration,
Can't check DB at the moment with no PC but from memory the J-10 has got a SEAD load but don't recall the role specific ESM pod that's mentioned in the article.
Cheers.
K

https://mobile.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/ ... 7412415488

YJ-91 x2
PL-9 x2
K/RKL700A ECM Pod (first time shown at Avidart)
Laser Targeting Pod
And other 2 inner wing pylons for fuel tanks or laser guided bombs

[KLAB]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: KLAB

http://www.janes.com/article/73149/chin ... ts-contest
For consideration,
Can't check DB at the moment with no PC but from memory the J-10 has got a SEAD load but don't recall the role specific ESM pod that's mentioned in the article.
Cheers.
K

https://mobile.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/ ... 7412415488

YJ-91 x2
PL-9 x2
K/RKL700A ECM Pod (first time shown at Avidart)
Laser Targeting Pod
And other 2 inner wing pylons for fuel tanks or laser guided bombs

They're PL-8 inert training versions in the photo (without front fins).
Its interesting as it implies the emitter locator pod is essential to the SEAD load presumably because the J-10 doesn't have the sensors internally.
For consideration of a change to all the late model J-10 SEAD loadouts?
Regards
K

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: KLAB
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They're PL-8 inert training versions in the photo (without front fins).
Its interesting as it implies the emitter locator pod is essential to the SEAD load presumably because the J-10 doesn't have the sensors internally.
For consideration of a change to all the late model J-10 SEAD loadouts?
Regards
K

I haven't see J-10A with SEAD loadout yet, rummaged lots of photos, and only JH-7A (YJ-91) and Su-30MKK (Kh-31) has it before J-10B SEAD was confirmed. Definitely not because of radar consider other two alternatives has inferior dopplers.

[Filitch]

Pay attention that Su-30MKK carries 6 K-31. Year ago I posted photo Su-34 with 6 Kh-31, but I got an answer that single photo not enough for DB change. But this is normal loadout for Su-27 family (Su-30, 34). I request to add this payload in the DB.

[De Savage]

Request for general oil recovery ship for adding flavor for scenarios. Most countries have these unarmed ships in case of oil spills. One or two general ship is enough like there is plenty of commercial ships. Thanks!

[BLiboy]

Hi,

[DB 467]

On #581-S 6XX Suffren[Barracuda]:

1 / In open sea conditions UMS 300O Flank array max range in Database viewer & sensor max range in globe display do not correspond
DB viewer : 70 nm Max
Globe display : 40 nm Max

Should be 70 nm on globe also


2 / VLF Towed array sonar is planned for Barracuda (more advanced DSUV-62 system - yet to be named)
https://www.forecastinternational.com/a ... _RECNO=839
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/barracuda
http://www.defence24.com/372437,first-o ... for-launch

baffles and detection through layers should be covered by towed array as it is for the other latest generation sub.


3 / Properties should also indicate
-Shrouded propulsor
-Nonmagnetic hull
-Shock resistant

Thanks to the team for this trumendous work !

[Aethyrion]

I see no difference between the 2016 and 2022 French FREMM versions.

Maybe the 2022 one is supposed to be the AAW version (expected to be delivered in 2021). In this case, it should have a slightly improved radar and 16 Aster 30 instead of 16 MdCN (in addition to the common 15 Aster 15).

[Scar79]

Official datasheet of the pr.22350 frigate from the "ARMY-2017" forum.

[philabos]

USCGC MORGENTHAU WHEC 722 transferred to Vietnam as CSB 8020 May 2017 .

[Dysta]

Suggestion: add Beidou (BPS) Messaging as a satellite-based comm-link.

https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/file ... States.pdf

Beidou’s development thus far indicates several key political objectives as well. China’s leadership views its efforts in space as providing both domestic and international prestige,43 and the development of one of the world’s first satellite navigation systems is likely seen as a main contributor in this regard. Officials have been quick to tout occasions in which receivers in various fields utilize “China’s own Beidou system.”44 One 2015 state-run media report emphasized that 98 percent of the components in the newest Beidou satellites were made in China, with international commenters noting that this domestic sourcing demonstrated China’s status as a leading space power.45 At the technical level, Beidou offers a short messaging service through which messages of up to 120 characters can be sent to other Beidou receivers, unlike GPS.46 Via this service, Chinese fishing vessels are reportedly able to sound “instant alarms” to fishing departments when emergencies arise, while a supplementary “vessel management system” allows them to request assistance from nearby vessels.47 This feature is particularly relevant to the ongoing disputes in the South China Sea, where fishing rights are at stake and where China’s maritime militia—a quasi- military force of fishermen that are tasked by and report to the PLA—plays a key role in advancing Beijing’s claims.48 The international cooperation opportunities provided by Beidou have also become a tool for Beijing to use within its larger foreign policy approach, as discussed further below.

[giantsquid]

JF-17 plane for Pakistani Air Force
Here is some suggestion according to latest sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC/PAC_JF-17_Thunder
https://defence.pk/
http://quwa.org/2015/08/30/jf-17-iii-jf-17-block-3/


For all versions
Agility 3,5 (like Mig-21 bis) ?
Add chaff/flare dispenser

Block II
Add surface search radar
Possibility to carry new WMD-7 targeting pods

Block III
Add MAW, part of a new EW suite
Add AESA radar
Add HMD
Add generic IRST, like J-10B
Maybe PL-10 AAM
Possibility to employ ECM pod
Possibility to carry new WMD-7 targeting pods

[Filitch]

Basing on information from this two posts, please add UGST to loadout of russian submarines.
fb.asp?m=4341033
fb.asp?m=4341067

[slimatwar]

Playing the scenario SPANISH GUINEA I saw that the database for SH-3 Sea King (#1934) shows pictures of two different helicopters:one bigger image which looks like S-70 and one smaller which is similar to Sea King.I noted that this happens generally with Spanish SH3 helos in DB 3000.
Also we could look into the possibility of adding AIM-9 to Greek RF-4E loadout.I know that they carried Sidewinders (sometimes?).