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PA 58 Verdun is in the game currently, but most of the things I've read about her seem to include a navalized variant of the Mirage IV. Could this be added?
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Missing aircraft (all Portuguese Air Force):

- Aérospatiale Puma SA.330C (’70-’79)

Sources:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9ro ... A-330_Puma
http://www.operacional.pt/sud-aviation-sa-330-puma/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9ro ... A_330_Puma

- C-130H (’77-…)

Sources:
http://www.emfa.pt/www/aeronave-2

- FIAT G.91 R/3 (’76-’93)

- Identical to the FIAT G.91/R1 (#2672), except in the following:
- 2 x DEFA 552 30mm cannons instead of the Browning M3 12,7mm machineguns
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- Has 4 external pylons
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 each)
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 4 x GP 110 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bomb
- Other known weapons:
--- Mk20 Rockeye
--- Mk81 Snakeye
--- BL755 cluster bomb
--- 110/250/500/750 lbs GP bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... t-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/f ... mento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/ ... -gina.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r3.html
 
- FIAT G.91 R/4 (’66-’93)

- Identical to the FIAT G.91/R1 (#2672), except in the following:
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- Has 4 external pylons
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 each)
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 4 x GP 110 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bomb
- Other known weapons:
--- Mk20 Rockeye
--- Mk81 Snakeye
--- BL755 cluster bomb
--- 110/250/500/750 lbs GP bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... t-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/f ... mento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/ ... -gina.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r4.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html

Corrections:

Aircraft:

#44 – G.91 Gina

- Is listed as a G.91 R/1, but Germany only fielded the G.91 R/3 from 1960 to 1982
- Should have 2 DEFA 552 30mm cannons instead of the Browning M3 12,7mm machineguns
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- The SNEB rocket loadout should have 38 rockets instead of 36 (2 x Matra 116M launchers with 19 rockets each)
- Has 4 external pylons
- When carrying the AS-20 missiles, a gun is removed to install the missile guidance system
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x AS-20 missiles
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x AS-20 missiles
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x Matra 116M launchers (19 SNEB rockets each)

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r3.html

#2672 – G.91 R/1 Gina

- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- When carrying the AS-20 missiles, 2 guns are removed to install the missile guidance system
- Missing loadouts:
--- 2 x GP 500lbs bombs
--- 2 x AS-20 missiles
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... craft.html
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 91R_DX.jpg

#948, #2517, #2462, #2249, #2665, #2342, #2107, #1054, #1047, #2595, #2203, #1905, #2401, #1875, #2627, #878, #64, #2208, #1811 – F-86F Sabre

- Should use 120 or 200 gallon (454l or 757l) drop tanks
- Missing armament:
--- M57A1 250 lbs
--- M64A1 500 lbs
--- M117 750 lbs
--- M65A1 1000 lbs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-86_Sabre
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/item/56117.html

#1070 – F-86F Sabre

- Should use 120 or 200 gallon (454l or 757l) drop tanks
- Should have LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 rockets per launcher) instead of the ZUNI rockets
- Missing armament:
--- M57A1 250 lbs
--- M64A1 500 lbs
--- M117 750 lbs
--- M65A1 1000 lbs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-86_Sabre
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... sabre.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2010/12/f ... l2010.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/item/56117.html

#3167 – Spitfire F. Mk Vc

- Aircraft belongs to the Army, not the Royal Air Force(!)
- Years of service: 1942 – 1955

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... _Air_Force

#1075 – SA.319B Alouette III

- Aircraft belongs to Air Force, not Navy
- Service entry in 1963, not 1979 (still on active duty)
- Missing loadouts:
--- “Lobo Mau” (Big Bad Wolf) gunship – MG151 cannon firing out of the left door
--- Comandos – 5 Paratroops

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sud_Aviat ... se_service
http://neloolen-modelismo.no.comunidade ... nos-na-fap
 
Ships:

#1093 – F 332 Nuno Tristao
- It should be “Tristão” instead of “Tristao”

#1099 – F 333 Diogo Cao
- It should be “Cão” instead of “Cao”

#1094 – F 336 Alvares Cabral
- It should be “Álvares” instead of “Alvares”

#2067 – F 471 Antonio Enes [João Coutinho Class]
- It should be “António” instead of “Antonio”

#1104 – F 480 Comandante Joao Belo [Mod Commandant Rivière]
- It should be “João” instead of “Joao”

#1105 – F 487 Baptiste de Andrade
- It should be “Baptista” instead of “Baptiste”
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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Sorry if my previous post sounded curt, it was not my intention! Thanks in advance for the hard work and the attention to our suggestions!
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G.91 R/3
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Just updated Paul's list a bit but he's pretty well caught up!

Cheer and happy holidays!

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Could you check the US FRAM gearings (and maybe the sumners as well) but their fuel consumption is way off...like 1 years worth of fuel...the Fletchers seem ok.

Also none of the FRAMs or Albany, Des Moines, Iowa etc have any UNREP capability.

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Fixed
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ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Fixed
thanks!

Just in case you haven't seen it..the AIM-9C bug came back..

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Fixed that one too :)
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I hope this hasn't been listed yet, but the B-50D (unit id: 502) in the CWDB has a maximum fuel capacity of 1365 kg which severely limits its utility.

From a quick search I found its capacity was closer to 13,000+ kg.
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No problems looks as though I missed a digit out somewhere
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I've made a few mistakes on the sugestions I submitted, namely regarding the G.91 versions belonging to the Portuguese, Italian and German Air Forces. I've edited the original post, but I'll post the corrected sugestions here.

- FIAT G.91 R/3 (’76-’93)

- Identical to the FIAT G.91/R1 (#2672), except in the following:
- 2 x DEFA 552 30mm cannons instead of the Browning M3 12,7mm machineguns
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- Has 4 external pylons
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 each)
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 4 x GP 110 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bomb
- Other known weapons:
--- Mk20 Rockeye
--- Mk81 Snakeye
--- BL755 cluster bomb
--- 110/250/500/750 lbs GP bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... t-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/f ... mento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/ ... -gina.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r3.html
 
- FIAT G.91 R/4 (’66-’93)

- Identical to the FIAT G.91/R1 (#2672), except in the following:
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- Has 4 external pylons
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 each)
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 4 x GP 110 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bomb
- Other known weapons:
--- Mk20 Rockeye
--- Mk81 Snakeye
--- BL755 cluster bomb
--- 110/250/500/750 lbs GP bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... t-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/f ... mento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/ ... -gina.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r4.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html

Corrections:

Aircraft:

#44 – G.91 Gina

- Is listed as a G.91 R/1, but Germany only fielded the G.91 R/3 from 1960 to 1982
- Should have 2 DEFA 552 30mm cannons instead of the Browning M3 12,7mm machineguns
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- The SNEB rocket loadout should have 38 rockets instead of 36 (2 x Matra 116M launchers with 19 rockets each)
- Has 4 external pylons
- When carrying the AS-20 missiles, a gun is removed to install the missile guidance system
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x AS-20 missiles
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x AS-20 missiles
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x Matra 116M launchers (19 SNEB rockets each)

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r3.html

#2672 – G.91 R/1 Gina

- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- When carrying the AS-20 missiles, 2 guns are removed to install the missile guidance system
- Missing loadouts:
--- 2 x GP 500lbs bombs
--- 2 x AS-20 missiles
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... craft.html
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 91R_DX.jpg
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And here is another post regarding aircraft of the Portuguese Air Force. Some of these aircraft are also used by the Spanish Air Force. Happy new year, guys! :)

- C-212-100 Aviocar (’74-’11) [Portugal] and T.12B [Spain]

- Engines: 2 x Garret-Air Research TPE-331-5-251C (776hp)
- Cargo:
--- 18 passengers
--- 16 paratroopers
--- 2 metric tons of cargo

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avc212.html
http://www.emfa.pt/www/po/esquadra/link ... 12-aviocar
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA_C-212_Aviocar
http://www.operacional.pt/ate-sempre-aviocar/
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/08/c ... parte.html
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/08/c ... parte.html

- C-212-100 ECM Aviocar (’77-’04) [Portugal]

- Engines: 2 x Garret-Air Research TPE-331-5-251C (776hp)
- EW equipment:
--- SIGINT: SIGINT Multispectral Airborne (SIGMA) System
--- ESM: AMES (Direction Finding, 2-18GHz)
--- ELINT/ECM: ARIES-A (ELINT: C-J bands, ECM: D-J bands)
--- COMINT/COMJAM: Smart Guard/Fast Jam (VHF-UHF)

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avc212.html
http://www.emfa.pt/www/po/esquadra/link ... 12-aviocar
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA_C-212_Aviocar
http://www.operacional.pt/ate-sempre-aviocar/
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/08/c ... parte.html
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/08/c ... parte.html
https://www.intelpage.info/47-grupo-mix ... nolas.html
http://bacteriosclub.blogspot.pt/2011/1 ... nt_19.html

Corrections:

#2850 – G.91Y Gina

- Should have 3 DE OUDE DELFT TA7M2 reconnaissance cameras pointed left, right and vertically plus a FAIRCHILD KA60C panoramic camera pointed front
- When carrying the AS-20 missiles, a gun is removed to install the missile guidance system
- Missing loadouts:
--- LAU-10/A (4 x Zuni) rocket pod (up to 4)
--- Mk83 bomb (up to 2)
--- AS-20 missile (up to 4)

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... g-91y.html
https://pt.scribd.com/doc/174079220/War ... -Fiat-G-91
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The Safeguard ABM facility is currently unusable in its current form. The Spartan needs to have its maximum target speed set to 11000 knots and maximum target altitude set to 560 KM. It also needs it's datalink range increased to 460 miles and be equipped with a 5 Megaton warhead. The Sprint needs its maximum speed to be increased to 6615 knots and its acceleration to be increased to 981 m/s it also will reach its maximum speed in the 0-65000 ft range. The Sprint's maximum target velocity needs to be increased to 10500 knots and maximum target altitude to 40 km. The Air POH for the sprint should also be increased as the missile demonstrated extreme accuracy to the point of effectively being a hit to kill interceptor. Here are my sources http://www.nuclearabms.info/Spartan.html http://www.nuclearabms.info/Sprint.html http://srmsc.org/mis2020.html http://srmsc.org/mis2010.html

Also could this be ported over to DB3000 as a hypothetical facility?

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I concur with Crazy Ivan's Sprint & Spartan inputs. I've been working on them too. His performance figures are good. I can re-edit and give you my sensor & facilities information (both real & hypothetical) in the next week or two. Making them "hypothetical" in DB3000 is a good idea.
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Hi Paul

Thanks for adding the Skybolt, but there are still a few issues.
The AGM-48 is still set as a cruise missile at 1400 m, and the GAM-87 is a set at a cruise altitude of 61000m.

Thanks to considering this.
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A couple of fuel-related issues with CWDB 470. First, from the tech forum, an issue with the B-29/B-50:
I have just observed that the B-29 superfortress only have a paltry 1365kg of fuel which makes them declare BINGO four minutes after takeoff (thats how I discovered the issue). Per comparison a B-17 medium bomber carres a little more than 10000kg.

The problem affects ALL the superfortress variants in the DB including the B-50s but not the KB-50s which carry more than 65000kg of fuel, as I suppose it should be, and all the Tu-4 Bull variants.

Playing with 972.13 CWDB 470

Ancalagon
Next, the LSD mismatch noted back in February and fixed has come back in the latest CWDB, at least with respect to the Thomaston class in NI's Deliverance.
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ORIGINAL: Eggstor

A couple of fuel-related issues with CWDB 470. First, from the tech forum, an issue with the B-29/B-50:
I have just observed that the B-29 superfortress only have a paltry 1365kg of fuel which makes them declare BINGO four minutes after takeoff (thats how I discovered the issue). Per comparison a B-17 medium bomber carres a little more than 10000kg.

The problem affects ALL the superfortress variants in the DB including the B-50s but not the KB-50s which carry more than 65000kg of fuel, as I suppose it should be, and all the Tu-4 Bull variants.

Playing with 972.13 CWDB 470

Ancalagon
Next, the LSD mismatch noted back in February and fixed has come back in the latest CWDB, at least with respect to the Thomaston class in NI's Deliverance.
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