Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[stilesw]

YEs you have the jokes, coffees in my mouth went kablooey

Ah ha! Something like this...

[SeaQueen]

B-52/B-2/B-1 Loadouts:

All JASSM loadouts should also have corresponding JASSM-ER loadouts. Basically, if a can use JASSM it can also use JASSM-ER.

[stilesw]

All JASSM loadouts should also have corresponding JASSM-ER loadouts. Basically, if I platform can use JASSM it can also use JASSM-ER.

Sarah,

Logged for evaluation. Thanks for the input.

-Wayne Stiles

[Tookatee]

Is there any ETA for the various modern MBTs missing from various nations? I just ran a North vs. South Korean scenario and I realized that the latest database (477) didn't have the K2 Black Panther, the various versions of the K1, or any variants of the Abrams for the Americans past the 2001 M1A2 SEP. I did some digging and realized that a lot of countries are missing their modern MBTs or even missing tanks in their entirety. If they aren't already on the priority list I can provide a list of the vehicles that are missing so they can be worked on for future updates.

[PCFRIM]

Hi,
Recently making a China vs India scenario. Please add Indian Astra, possible F-21(F-16V) and also CJ-10A loadout for Chinese 055 VLS.
Thanks,
PC

[LORDPrometheus]

The JASSM and JASSM-ER have the same warhead body seeker guidance system and software the only change is a new more efficient engine and a larger fuel tank (basically they made a lighter and more efficient engine and used the spare weight for more fuel).
IOC was on B-1B and shortly afterwards B-52. f-16 integration finished in 2016 or 2017
http://www.deagel.com/news/US-Air-Force ... 12567.aspx

-15E integration finished this year
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 94010.html

Also the AN/FPS-118 OTH-B was decommissioned in 2002 and dismatled in 2005 but has no end date in the database. On the train and can't get you the citation now but I will update later

[stilesw]

Indian Astra, possible F-21(F-16V) and also CJ-10A loadout for Chinese 055 VLS

Kazuto,

Can you provide any documentation for this?

Thanks,

-Wayne

[stilesw]

Is there any ETA for the various modern MBTs missing from various nations? I just ran a North vs. South Korean scenario and I realized that the latest database (477) didn't have the K2 Black Panther, the various versions of the K1, or any variants of the Abrams for the Americans past the 2001 M1A2 SEP. I did some digging and realized that a lot of countries are missing their modern MBTs or even missing tanks in their entirety. If they aren't already on the priority list I can provide a list of the vehicles that are missing so they can be worked on for future updates.

Hi Tookatee,

It would be very helpful if you could provide whatever documentation/references you have regarding these units. With enough specific detail they may have a higher likelihood of inclusion.

Thanks,

-Wayne

[SeaQueen]

B-52 had an interim JASSM-ER capability since 2017 according to pp. 9 of this document.

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Docu ... c_2017.pdf

Full capability was planned to be achieved this year for the B-52 and F-16, and 2021 for the B-2 according to pp. 30 of this:

https://www.af.mil/Portals/1/documents/ ... Report.pdf

ORIGINAL: LORDPrometheus

The JASSM and JASSM-ER have the same warhead body seeker guidance system and software the only change is a new more efficient engine and a larger fuel tank (basically they made a lighter and more efficient engine and used the spare weight for more fuel).
IOC was on B-1B and shortly afterwards B-52. f-16 integration finished in 2016 or 2017
http://www.deagel.com/news/US-Air-Force ... 12567.aspx

-15E integration finished this year
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 94010.html

Also the AN/FPS-118 OTH-B was decommissioned in 2002 and dismatled in 2005 but has no end date in the database. On the train and can't get you the citation now but I will update later

[Tookatee]

ORIGINAL: stilesw

Is there any ETA for the various modern MBTs missing from various nations? I just ran a North vs. South Korean scenario and I realized that the latest database (477) didn't have the K2 Black Panther, the various versions of the K1, or any variants of the Abrams for the Americans past the 2001 M1A2 SEP. I did some digging and realized that a lot of countries are missing their modern MBTs or even missing tanks in their entirety. If they aren't already on the priority list I can provide a list of the vehicles that are missing so they can be worked on for future updates.

Hi Tookatee,

It would be very helpful if you could provide whatever documentation/references you have regarding these units. With enough specific detail they may have a higher likelihood of inclusion.

Thanks,

-Wayne

I'll try my best to link to the specific websites that have appropriate documentation, but I can't post links yet.

The wikis for both the M1 (the Wikipedia article for the M1_Abrams) and the K2 Black panther (The Wikipedia article for the K2 Black Panther) provide extensive citations and detail into the different variants that exist for each specific unit. I specified these two units in my original message because they're the front-line tanks of their respective countries and their inclusion would probably affect gameplay the most as the United States and South Korea are involved in many relevant scenarios. The M1A2 has gone through many upgrades since the SEP v1, some of which include the TUSK kit (entered service in 2006), the SEP v2, the M1A2C (also known as the SEP v3) variants that have been/are currently being produced with the Trophy Active Protection system (2017), and the recently announced v4/M1A3 variant.

The baseline K2 Black Panther (entered service in 2014) and the K2 PiP variant are the latest South Korean MBT, over 200 have already been produced, about 100 more are being produced, and about another 100 plan to be produced. It's noted for its use of the KSTAM (the wiki article for the KSTAM) round that functions as a fire and forget anti-tank munition that uses a lofted trajectory and systems similar to the SADARM American submunition, in that it employs active radar to find a target after deploying a parachute while over the target area and then engages said target with an Explosively formed penetrator. The K2 also has a millimeter band RWR system and a soft kill missile defense system, with the PiP variant also containing a Hard kill missile defense system similar to Trophy.

[Hannable]

Hey there ...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that small navies like the Bangladesh navy aren't high priority - and small ships in a small navy are even less of a priority. However, whenever you folks get around to it, I was hoping you could add the following ships to the Bangladesh (is it Bangladeshi?) order of battle:

Type 053H3 FFG (Guided Missile Frigate) 2 hulls
BNS Umar Farooq (FFG-16) and BNS Khalid Bin Walid (FFG-19)

Type 056 (C-13B Version) FFL (Guided Missile Corvette) 2 hulls
BNS Shongram (FFL-113) and BNS Prottasha (FFG-114)

Sea Dragon Class Large Patrol Craft 1 hull
BNS Madhumati (P-911)

Meghna Class Offshore Patrol Vessel 2 hulls
BNS Meghna (P-211) and BNS Jamuna (P-212)

Padma Class Offshore Patrol Vessel 5 hulls
BNS Padma (P-312), BNS Surma (P-313), BNS Aparajeya (P-261), BNS Adamya (P-262) and BNS Atandra (P-263)

Type 021 Class Missile Boat 4 hulls
BNS Durdharsha (P-8125), BNS Durdanto (P-8126), BNS Durdondo (P-8128) and BNS Anirban (P-8131)

Kraljevica Class Patrol Boat 2 hulls
BNS Karnafuli (P-314) and BNS Tista (P-315)

Haizhui Class Sub Chaser 1 hull
BNS Barkat (P-711)

Type 037 Class Sub Chaser 1 hull
BNS Nirbhoy (P-812)

Chamsuri Class Patrol Boat (Gunboat) 4 hulls
BNS Titash (P-1011), BNS Kusiyara (P-1012), BNS Chitra (P-1013), and BNS Dhansiri (P-1014)

Type 010 Coastal Minesweeper 1 hull
BNS Sagar (M-91)

River Class Minehunter 4 hulls
BNS Shapla (M-95), BNS Shaikat (M-96), BNS Surovi (M-97) and BNS Shaibal (M-98)

BNS Sahayak (A-512) Fleet Replenishment Ship

BNS Khan Jahan Ali (A-515) Fleet Tanker

BNS Imam Ghazzali (A-516) Fleet Tanker

I know most of these ships aren't hugely important and some can simply be substituted for the same classes in other navies, but it's just less of a pain if all the ships are in the same nation's order of battle.

Also, I noticed that many nations have only a skeleton Facilities database - the missing units are simply too numerous to list. So I was wondering if any work is being done there? I know this game really isn't about ground combat so I don't expect ground units to be very high on the piority list - but, as they say. variety is the spice of life!

[Dysta]

The latest photo of rumored Type 003 CV is revealed, and has very similar characteristics of warship hull like what Type 002 CV was made many years ago. I cannot fully predict what armament or specification the 003 will have, but I can make some rough guesstimates.

https://mobile.twitter.com/dafengcao/st ... 6951875589



The guesstimate of 003 will be:
- At least 2 or 3 CAT positions, no ski-ramp
- At least as big as Type 002 CV (70kt displacement)
- At least 2 aircraft elevators, same as Type 001 and 002
- Equipped with multi-band APARs like Type 055 DDG have
- At least have the same amount of CIWS from Type 001 (002 not yet confirmed)
- Conventional powered, at least have the same endurance of Type 001
- UNREP capable, same as Type 002
- STO aircrafts cannot be launched from CAT
- At least 48 large aircraft to park in total
- J-15B (or J-15T) will becomes the backbone of carrier jets, also allow full sortie with CAT, and equipped with J-15D’s APAR
- J-15D (or J-15E) will also have CAT version for OECM
- Rumored KJ-600 will be featured for AEW, but Z-18 AEW may still be used for a while
- Rumored Z-20H for MPA and ASW
- Rumored J-31 (Navalized) will be CAT-only rather than STO
- And most importantly, CEC integration for Type 055 DDG

Also Type 002 (old name is 001A) is still not in DB3000, but I am quite certain it will mostly the same as Type 001 besides deck space and sensor suites.

[Tookatee]

The K1A1 that's currently in-game has the wrong service date, it entered service in 2001 and not in 1991. In addition the other later variants of the K1 are not in game such as the K1A1 PiP and the K1A2 ( I refer to the Tanks encyclopedia article on the K1-88.)

[ExNusquam]

The latest update switching the RAAFs FLIR from ATFLIR to Litening on the F/A-18F's is incorrect. Australia uses the ATFLIR on the Superhornets, and Litening on the F/A-18Cs
Announcement of Sale (24 AN/ASQ-28s): https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/a ... r-aircraft
Image 1: https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/5/69183_1553854591.jpg
Image 2: https://www.defenseworld.net/uploads//n ... 304070.jpg
Image 3: https://twitter.com/StrikeWriter/status ... 5027300353

You can validate that those are all ATFLIR, since when Litening is carried on a cheek mount it uses a different attach point: http://centralblue.williamsfoundation.o ... 68x513.jpg

[TwarVG]

The new DB3000 update is amazing and has added a few nice assets for the UK, but I have found and listed a few things I believe to be errors.

Apache Guardian AH.Mk.2 [AH-64E]
AGM-114L Hellfire II - Remove
Brimstone 2 - Rotary wing (potential new weapon entry, 25nm range) - Add
AIM-92E Stinger ATAS - Remove
HYDRA 70mm Rocket - Remove
CRV-7 C14 - Add

Buccaneer S.2B
Mk18 1000lb RET - Add (All variants)

Lightning II
GBU-31 JDAM - Remove
GBU-32 JDAM - Remove
CPU-123 Paveway II GPS/LGB - Add (2025 only)
GBU-24E/B Paveway III GPS/LGB [BLU-109A/B] - Add (2025 only)

Poseidon MRA.1
Mk50 Barracuda - Remove
Mk54 HAAWC - Remove

Protector MALE UCAV (Protector RG.1)
Brimstone 2 - Add
Paveway IV - Add
GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB - Remove
Loadout amendments - The aircraft has 6 underwing hardpoints, each able to carry a triplet of Brimstone missiles or a single Paveway IV (inner hardpoints only). Promo images show the aircraft carrying up to 18 Brimstone missiles at full load.

Typhoon FGR.4/Typhoon T.3
GBU-24E/B Paveway III GPS/LGB [BLU-109A/B] - Add
Brite Cloud Active Expendable Decoy - Add (2020 versions)

Paveway IV
Set minimum launch altitude to 2000ft along the same lines as other LGB/GPS munitions.

Type 45 Batch 2 Destroyer
324mm TT twin torpedo tubes - Remove
RGM-84L Harpoon II replaced with RGM-84D Harpoon IC
The Batch 1 and Batch 2 entries should be removed and replaced with 2 versions, the 2012 entry with no Harpoon, and the 2015 entry with Harpoon.

Most of these aren't major additions or changes, more just minor nitpicky things and minor oversights. There's a lot there so if any of them give you any doubt I'll try to dig up as much information as I can to verify certain pieces, but most of it should be correct. Thanks!

[stilesw]

There's a lot there so if any of them give you any doubt I'll try to dig up as much information as I can to verify certain pieces, but most of it should be correct. Thanks!

Hi Ben,

If you can provide some documentation/reference material for these things it will greatly increase the likelihood of changes being made. This is not to say that you are not correct but in the interest of database accuracy we need as much verification as possible.

Thanks for the input.

-Wayne

[stilesw]

The K1A1 that's currently in-game has the wrong service date, it entered service in 2001 and not in 1991. In addition the other later variants of the K1 are not in game such as the K1A1 PiP and the K1A2 ( I refer to the Tanks encyclopedia article on the K1-88.)

Logged.

Thanks,

-Wayne

[stilesw]

The latest update switching the RAAFs FLIR from ATFLIR to Litening on the F/A-18F's is incorrect. Australia uses the ATFLIR on the Superhornets, and Litening on the F/A-18Cs

Joseph,

Logged. Thanks for the input.

-Wayne

[stilesw]

Bangladesh navy aren't high priority - and small ships in a small navy are even less of a priority. However, whenever you folks get around to it, I was hoping you could add the following ships to the Bangladesh (is it Bangladeshi?) order of battle:

Christopher,

Can you provide any documentation or references to support these additions? That will greatly help with their possible inclusion.

Thanks for the input.

-Wayne

[AceOfSpadeszzzzzz]

Since we are getting CEC-capable AAM-4B is it possible to make meteor CEC-capable, too？
http://www.warfaresims.com/?p=4884
"this capability has also been adopted by the JASDF’s AAM-4 missile and MBDA’s Meteor"