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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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Please consider the addition of the "Eastern U-2": Yak-25RV Mandrake

it was a variant of the Yak-25 dedicated to high altitude espionage/recognition. Many of its characteristics were similar to that of United States Lockheed U-2, but it had a more troubled history since to structural and engine problems.

Yak-25rv Mandrake

Weight and Dimensions
Length 17,17 m
Width 23,4 m
Height 3,8 m
Wing Swept Angle: differently from the Yak-25 the wing was not 45 degrees swept back, but it was a straight highly elongated wing

Wing Area 51,5 m²
Empy Weight 6 175 kg
Max Take Off Weight 9 950 kg

PERFORMANCE:
Max. speed 870 km/h
Ceiling 20500 m
Range 3500 km

Here the specs in a link:
http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/yak-25rv.php

and in the link below the history of the aircraft:
https://hangar47.com/yakovlev-yak-25rv/

As you can read, it is an important plane since it was the only high altitude Russian recon plane in the Cold War before the appearence of Myasishchev M-17 and M-55 now used for research.
Its addition would allow the creation of many interesting scenarios.
Ok, the Mig 25 have had recon variants, but it was not a dedicated high altitude spyplane.
Please consider it. In the past I also did a 3D Model of this, I have attached an image so the CMANO community can see what it looks like in perspective, since it is a very little known aircraft.
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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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ORIGINAL: Clockmaster77

Please consider the addition of the "Eastern U-2": Yak-25RV Mandrake

it was a variant of the Yak-25 dedicated to high altitude espionage/recognition. Many of its characteristics were similar to that of United States Lockheed U-2, but it had a more troubled history since to structural and engine problems.

Yak-25rv Mandrake

Weight and Dimensions
Length 17,17 m
Width 23,4 m
Height 3,8 m
Wing Swept Angle: differently from the Yak-25 the wing was not 45 degrees swept back, but it was a straight highly elongated wing

Wing Area 51,5 m²
Empy Weight 6 175 kg
Max Take Off Weight 9 950 kg

PERFORMANCE:
Max. speed 870 km/h
Ceiling 20500 m
Range 3500 km

Here the specs in a link:
http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/yak-25rv.php

and in the link below the history of the aircraft:
https://hangar47.com/yakovlev-yak-25rv/

As you can read, it is an important plane since it was the only high altitude Russian recon plane in the Cold War before the appearence of Myasishchev M-17 and M-55 now used for research.
Its addition would allow the creation of many interesting scenarios.
Ok, the Mig 25 have had recon variants, but it was not a dedicated high altitude spyplane.
Please consider it. In the past I also did a 3D Model of this, I have attached an image so the CMANO community can see what it looks like in perspective, since it is a very little known aircraft.
Already in the DB :)
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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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In my scenario work for a Caribbean circa 1970 I am running across RADAR that was in use at MacDill AFB. In the mid-1950s, General Electric developed a radar with a search altitude of 100,000 feet and a range of 270 miles. This radar was significant in that it was the first stacked-beam radar to enter into production in the United States. Designed to operate in the L-band at 1250 to 1350 MHz, the radar deployed in late 1959 and the early 1960s. The AN/FPS-7 was used for both air defense and air traffic.In the early 1960s, a modification called AN/ECP-91 was installed to improve its electronic countermeasure (ECM) capability. About thirty units were produced MacDill upgraded a FPS-7B to a E model in 1966.

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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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Already in the DB :)

Where? I can't find it in the CWDB in the "Soviet Union [-1991]" entry, nor in DB3000 "Russia [1992-]","None","Unknown" and "Generic". I'm missing something? Thanks alot for the help [:)]
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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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ORIGINAL: .Sirius
Already in the DB :)

Where? I can't find it in the CWDB in the "Soviet Union [-1991]" entry, nor in DB3000 "Russia [1992-]","None","Unknown" and "Generic". I'm missing something? Thanks alot for the help [:)]

its Platform ID 2377 Yak-25RV Mandrake (Soviet Union) -1991
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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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ORIGINAL: .Sirius
its Platform ID 2377 Yak-25RV Mandrake (Soviet Union) -1991

at this point or my files are missing and this is a serious problem (but the Steam version of my Command License is updated to the latest build), or I'm missing something on how to consult database. I've done a Steam check of Command Files Integrity and 116 files was corrected, but the database still lacks this entry (and all Yak-25 family and who knows how many other entries). What should I do? Uninstall and Re-Download Command from Steam for example?
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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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ORIGINAL: .Sirius
its Platform ID 2377 Yak-25RV Mandrake (Soviet Union) -1991

at this point or my files are missing and this is a serious problem (but the Steam version of my Command License is updated to the latest build), or I'm missing something on how to consult database. I've done a Steam check of Command Files Integrity and 116 files was corrected, but the database still lacks this entry (and all Yak-25 family and who knows how many other entries). What should I do? Uninstall and Re-Download Command from Steam for example?

that's strange I would go for a re install to see if that clears the problem
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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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Question------When do the DB additions make it into the Sim? I updated to v1.14 Build 998.19 last week. I was looking at my DB files and the last update is CWDB_476, file dated 11/23/2018. DB3K_476 is dated 11/11/2018. Does it just take time to add the DB additions to the sim updates or is there a place to get the updated DB?

NEVERMIND, I just read the "What's new" pdf and it's clear the DB updates come with the Sim updates.

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RE: AN/FPS-7, 7A, 7B, 7C, 7D

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Please remove code 1001 Illuminate at Launch for missiles AA-7 Apex A(#746), C(#1498) and add code 2012 Lock-On After Launch (LOAL).
Remove code 2002 Anti-Air Rear-Aspect and add code 2003 Anti-Air All-Aspect for missiles AA-7 Apex B (#747)
Change minimal air range to 0.2 nm (0.5 km) for missiles AA-7 Apex C(#1498), D (#1499)
Homing device for C was developed in second half of 70-s. Should generation be changed?
Probability of kill for B should be higher, about 70%. According launches statistics it can be 70-75%.
Sources: R.Angelsky "Domestic air-to-air missiles", Aviation and cosmonautics, #9 2002.
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/r23/r23.shtml
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/r24/r24.shtml
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Valiant, Victor, Vulcan

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Hi! There are some issues with the Valiant, Victor, Vulcan aircraft that the recent V-Bomber scenario made me notice. Some guesswork/estimation on my part, I don't claim to be an expert and may be wrong! Apologies for the big dump of text...not spergy, just detail-oriented, riiiight.

Valiant

First issue is that fuel capacity is a mess. This was highlighted in the tech support forum but I'll put it here as well for completeness - currently fuel capacity is 5435kg for all variants including the tanker which renders it almost useless for that role and hyper-efficient if taking on fuel from tankers. The pilots' notes (can be gotten from here for all three aircraft, incidentally, kinda neat to read through) puts fuel capacity as:

25230kg internal fuel only;
36320kg with external/drop tanks;
38360kg with external/drop tanks and bomb bay tank (ie, as a tanker/recon aircraft).

- The external tanks seem to have been used most of the time and to judge by the stated max weight of 167000lbs payload seems to have been at least 40t, plenty for a single early hydrogen bomb after fuel but probably a little short for a full load of HE bombs which would affect the range somewhat.

- Currently in-game range with a single Yellow Sun is around 3300nm if flown entirely at best altitude/speed which sounds about right, but is slightly longer (3400nm or so) with twice the load of HE bombs which should probably be rather lower. 2750nm? 3000? vOv.

- Range would presumably be a little longer for lighter loadouts with the small Red Beard tactical kabooms.

- Ferry/recon/tanker range is around 5900nm in-game at the moment which seems rather optimistic especially compared to the Victor and Vulcan; vague internet guff has it at 3500nm on internal fuel only or 4500nm with external tanks which at least seems more plausible.

- There is an option to carry four Mk. 36 bombs which are 10Mt weapons weighing about 7t. Should probably just be one!

- The aircraft were apparently fit with a tail warning radar which is not present, 'Orange Putter', it's a tiny little thing so range can't have been much (few miles?) but the internet doesn't seem to know anything much about it and so neither do I. This seems to have also been widely fit to the Canberra, early Victor and early Vulcan and doesn't exist in-game that I can see.


Victor

Here there are really two separate issues:

- Range, and therefore fuel consumption, is really messed up;
- The B.1 and B.2 have the same data but the B.2 is reasonably different.

- Victor B.1 is the original model with AS Sapphire engines of around 45000lb total thrust; B.2 is re-engined with RR Conway turbofans of around 70000-80000lb total thrust so can take rather more of a load. Fuel capacity may also be slightly low, being apparently (for B.2, not clear if different or how for B.1):

30840kg internal fuel only;
42850kg with external/drop tanks;
50000kg with external/drop tanks and two bomb bay tanks (ie, as tanker/recon aircraft)

- I say may as most of the usual internet source stuff says 41t as a tanker - maybe the stuff in the pilots' notes got revised later?

- Payload for the B.1 seems to have been around 41t total which probably explains why the external tanks appear to have been less used.

- I suspect fuel load and therefore range should be a fraction higher than but comparable to the Valiant, but it isn't; range in-game is around 1800nm with Yellow Sun, ie less than a Canberra. The specified radius for all three aircraft when they were ordered was 1500nm/3000nm range and it seems unlikely that wasn't met as there'd have been a lot of squawking about it - gotta get those Commies nuked, after all!

- Range with 35000lbs of HE (ie 5x the weight of Yellow Sun) is currently longer at around 2000nm - that might be about right as it'd require a lot of fuel to be left behind. Arguably there should be the option to carry 21000lbs as per the other two to a longer range. There is the option to carry Tallboy or Grand Slam bombs with these due to the v. large bomb bay which end up around the same weight.

- Ferry/tanker range in-game is comparable to Valiant at 5900nm. For the B.1 and K.1, being load-limited with thirstier engines, might be a bit shorter.

- MTOW for the B.2 gets a significant bump with the more powerful/efficient engines and payload looks like it ought to be around 56t. That probably allows you to take one of the bomb bay fuel tanks and some of the smaller bombs to some pretty significant range.

- Currently in game Yellow Sun is not in the loadouts, but probably should be, perhaps along with some US bombs (B43 as per Valiant?).

- Conceptually you might have been able to squeeze two Yellow Sun/Blue Danube into the Victor but I don't know that there were ever enough of them around that this would have been done.

- Ferry/tanker range remains at 5900nm which seems reasonable at 50t fuel.

- All Victor models in-game except the K.2 are fit with ARI.5919 Red Steer as a RWR but should presumably also have ARI.5952 Red Steer as a tail warning radar (except the B.1A, which should only have the little Orange Putter?)


Vulcan

- Sort of like the Victor, the B.2 version is a bit different (significantly more powerful engines and a slightly larger wing) - the B.1 also seems not to have had the option of bomb bay tanks whereas the B.2 does. Again per the manual it's 33600kg (internal only), 37210kg (with one bomb bay tank) 40820kg (with both bay tanks)

- I think fuel is therefore mostly OK here with the exception of the recon and Skybolt carrier versions - the former could presumably take at least one of the bay tanks and the latter perhaps both, weight permitting (since the missiles were to be carried externally).

- Range is a bit inconsistent here too - for the B.1, 4700nm ferry (makes sense), 2650nm with Yellow Sun (probably a bit low), 3000nm with 21000lbs HE (might be right but should presumably be lower than with YS), 2650nm with Red Beard (should be a bit higher than YS as less weight - the late B.2 with four lightweight WE.177 will do 3850nm which is perhaps a bit high for the B.1 but may be more in the right ballpark).

- For the B.2, numbers are the same - should probably be a bit higher as new engines etc. The one that really stands out as weird is the Skybolt carrier loadouts which can do 4700nm with two big honking missiles strapped to the outside!

- Oddly the early Blue Danube bomb is only on the later B.2 model. Should probably not be on there but be on the B.1, and presumably only one per aircraft not two.

- B.2 can load two Yellow Sun, which is not a great weight but I wonder if they'd actually fit in the bomb bay - they were apparently 20ft long and the bay is 30ft or so.

- As with Victor, those with ARI.5919 Red Steer as a RWR should presumably also have ARI.5952 Red Steer as a tail warning radar (with the early B.1 having Orange Putter?).

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RE: Valiant, Victor, Vulcan

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Hi Thanks for the date I'll get onto it
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RE: Valiant, Victor, Vulcan

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Noticed one other thing just now, actually - the ARI.18051 chaff/flare dispenser looks like it's carrying the ship version of chaff/flares - actually it looks like a lot of components probably are as if you look at the 'Generic Flare Rocket' and 'Generic Chaff Rocket' there's an awful lot of aircraft listed, and it seems like they only work if fitted to a ship?
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RE: Valiant, Victor, Vulcan

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ARI.18051 chaff/flare dispense
Good catch fixed
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RE: Valiant, Victor, Vulcan

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Hello, it's-a me again! I'm just dropping a few corrections for a few cold-war US aircraft! Enjoy!

Sensors:

AN/APS-54

- In game, this equipment is represented as a radar, when it is actually a radar warning receiver. (Page 169, sheet 4-16)

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... craft.html

Aircraft:

#844, #856, #1006, #906, #1164, #1842, #944, #1058, #1883, #880, #457, #3188 – RF-84F Thunderflash

- Recon equipment:
--1 forward oblique K-22 camera (25º below horizontal)
--1 vertical K-17 camera
--2 left/right oblique K-17 cameras
--1 left oblique K-22 camera (25º to 40º below horizontal)
--1 vertical K-38 camera

- Weapons:
--4 M3 Browning 12,7mm machineguns

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... craft.html
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/RF-84F ... _(Yip).pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/RF-84F ... _(Yip).pdf

#1436, #2658, #2007, #2513, #996, #1161, #1526, #2679, #939, #1044, #1797, #1869, #2626, #871 – RT-33A Shooting Star
#3182 – RF-80A Shooting Star
#2199 – RF-80C Shooting Star


- Recon equipment:
--1 forward oblique K-22 camera – 12” lens
--2 left/right oblique K-17 cameras – 6” lens
--1 vertical K-38 camera – 24” lens

- Remove all guns.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... t-33a.html

#1870, #2749, #40 – RF-101A Voodoo

- Avionics:

--Cameras:
---1 KA-2 12” Fwd Oblique
---2 KA-1 36” L/R Oblique
---3 KA-2 6” Down and L/R Oblique

--RWR: AN/APS-54

- Has refuelling probe

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... craft.html
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/RF-101 ... y_1957.pdf

#2751, #128, #2753 – RF-101C Voodoo

- Avionics:

--Cameras:
---1 KA-2 12” Fwd Oblique
---2 KA-1 36” L/R Oblique
---3 KA-2 6” Down and L/R Oblique

--RWR: AN/APS-54

- Has refuelling probe

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/RF-101 ... r_1958.pdf

#2754 – RF-101G Voodoo

- Avionics:

--Cameras:
---3 KS-87 6” Fwd/L/R Oblique
---1 KA-56 3” Panoramic Down

--RWR: AN/APS-54

- Has refuelling probe

Source:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... anual.html

#2755 – RF-101H Voodoo

- Avionics:

--Cameras:
---3 KS-87 6” Fwd/L/R Oblique
---1 KA-56 3” Panoramic Down

--RWR: AN/APS-54

- Has refuelling probe

Source:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... anual.html
 
#3422, #1630 – RF-8A Crusader

- Camera:
--1 KB-10 3” Fwd Oblique
--3 CAX-12 1.5”-12” Down and L/R Oblique
--2 CAX-12 1.5”-12” L/R Oblique

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/item/56082.html
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/RF-8A_ ... y_1967.pdf

#3423, #625 – RF-8G Crusader

- Avionics:

--RWR:
---AN/ALR-45, AN/ALR-50 (late)
---AN/APR-25, AN/APR-27 (early)

--ECM:
---AN/ALQ-126 (late)
---AN/ALQ-100 (early)

--CMD: AN/ALE-29A

--Cameras:
---1 KA-51 6” Fwd Oblique
---1 KA-66 3” Panoramic Down
---2 KS-87 3”-12” L/R Oblique

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... rf-8g.html

#3192 – Lockheed EC-121D Warning Star

- Avionics:
--Search radar: AN/APS-20E
--Height-finder radar: AN/APS-45
--RWR: AN/APR-9B

Source:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... -121d.html

#508, #274 – Lockheed EC-121K Warning Star

- Avionics:

--Search radar: AN/APS-20

--Height-finder radar: AN/APS-45

--RWR:
---AN/APR-9B
---AN/APR-13

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/EC-121 ... y_1967.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/WV-2_S ... r_1951.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/WV-2_S ... r_1957.pdf
 
#3194 – Lockheed EC-121N Warning Star

- Avionics:
--Search radar: AN/APS-20B
--Height-finder radar: AN/APS-45
--RWR: AN/APR-9B

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/WC-121 ... y_1967.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/WV-3_S ... e_1956.pdf

#3195 – Lockheed EC-121R Warning Star

- Avionics:

--Radar: AN/APS-42

--RWR:
---AN/APR-25
---AN/APR-26
---AN/ALR-27

--ECM: AN/ALT-28

Sources:
https://www.westin553.net/batcat09.htm
https://www.westin553.net/batcat00.htm

#1627, #3083, #3385 – F-8A Crusader

- Please remove the Mighty Mouse rockets, as due to problems with the launching system they were never used operationally.

Source:
http://www.vought.org/special/html/sf8u2.html

#1595, #3084, #3386, #3387, #1596, #1597, #3388, #3389 – F-8B/C Crusader

- Please remove the Mighty Mouse rockets, as due to problems with the launching system they were never used operationally.
- The F-8B and the F-8C used the AN/APS-67, not the AN/APG-30 nor the AN/APQ-94 radar.
- Can only carry 2 AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles.

Source:
http://www.joebaugher.com/navy_fighters/f8_4.html
http://www.vought.org/products/html/f8u-1.html
http://www.vought.org/special/html/sf8u2.html
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-8C_C ... y_1967.pdf
 
#1628, #3390 – F-8D Crusader (early)

- Please remove the Mighty Mouse rockets, as due to problems with the launching system they were never used operationally.
- The early F-8D only carried the AN/APG-83 radar, no other IRST, RWR, ECM or CMD equipment.
- It carried 2 or 4 AIM-9B/C/D missiles.
- Please add a mixed 2 AIM-9B/D and 2 AIM-9C loadout.

#298, #3391 – F-8D Crusader (late)

- The late F-8D only carried the AN/APG-83 radar, the AN/AAS-15 IRST and no other RWR, ECM or CMD equipment.
- It carried 2 or 4 AIM-9B/C/D missiles.
- Please add a mixed 2 AIM-9B/D and 2 AIM-9C loadout.

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-8D_C ... y_1967.pdf
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... lf-8d.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... lf-8d.html

#297, #1629, #3392, #3393 – F-8E Crusader

- Avionics:
--Radar: AN/APQ-94
--IR: AN/AAS-15
--RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-30
--ECM: AN/ALQ-51
--CMD: AN/ALE-29

- It carried 2 or 4 AIM-9B/C/D missiles.
- Please add a mixed 2 AIM-9B/D and 2 AIM-9C loadout.
- The F-8E carried the AGM-12 Bullpup missiles in the wings, it could not carry them simultaneously with bombs.
- The F-8E usually carried 8 Zuni rockets in ground attack missions in the fuselage rails instead of Sidewinder missiles.

- Maximum wing loadout:
--12 Mk.81 GP bombs
--8 Mk.82 GP bombs
--2 Mk.83/84 bombs
--2 Bullpup A/B missiles

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-8E_C ... y_1967.pdf
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... lf-8d.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... lf-8d.html
 
#1598, #1599, #1600, #3398, #3399, #3400, #3607 – F-8H Crusader

- Avionics:

--Radar: AN/APQ-149

--IR: AN/AAS-15

--RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-30

--ECM:
---AN/ALQ-51 (early)
---AN/ALQ-100 (late)

--CMD: AN/ALE-29

- It carried 2 or 4 AIM-9B/C/D missiles.
- Please add a mixed 2 AIM-9B/D and 2 AIM-9C loadout.
- The F-8H usually carried 8 Zuni rockets in ground attack missions in the fuselage rails instead of Sidewinder missiles.
- The F-8H carried the AGM-12 Bullpup missiles in the wings, it could not carry them simultaneously with bombs.

- Maximum wing loadout:
--4 LAU-3 launchers (76 FFAR total)
--4 LAU-10 launchers (16 Zuni total)
--8 Mk.82/81 GP bombs
--4 Mk.83/M117 bombs
--2 Mk.84 bombs
--4 Mk.77 incendiary
--2 Mk.79 incendiary
--8 Mk.20 Rockeye cluster bombs
--4 CBU-24/29/49 cluster bombs
--2 Bullpup A/B missiles

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-8H_C ... h_1973.pdf
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... -f-8j.html
 
#1601, #1602, #1604, #3401, #3402, #3403 – F-8J Crusader

- Avionics:

--Radar: AN/APQ-124

--IR: AN/AAS-15

--RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-30

--ECM:
---AN/ALQ-51 (early)
---AN/ALQ-100 (late)

--CMD: AN/ALE-29

- It carried 2 or 4 AIM-9B/C/D missiles.
- Please add a mixed 2 AIM-9B/D and 2 AIM-9C loadout.
- The F-8J usually carried 8 Zuni rockets in ground attack missions in the fuselage rails instead of Sidewinder missiles.
- The F-8J carried the AGM-12 Bullpup missiles in the wings, it could not carry them simultaneously with bombs.

- Maximum wing loadout:
--4 LAU-3 launchers (76 FFAR total)
--4 LAU-10 launchers (16 Zuni total)
--8 Mk.82/81 GP bombs
--4 Mk.83/M117 bombs
--2 Mk.84 bombs
--4 Mk.77 incendiary
--2 Mk.79 incendiary
--8 Mk.20 Rockeye cluster bombs
--4 CBU-24/29/49 cluster bombs
--2 Bullpup A/B missiles

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-8J_C ... h_1973.pdf
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... -f-8j.html

#39, #117, #2752, #2756 – F-101B Voodoo

- Please remove every sensor except the MG-13 radar and the Mk.1 Eyeball.

- Weapon configurations:
--2 AIR-2 Genie + 2 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--2 AIR-2 Genie + 2 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon
--6 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--6 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon
--3 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon + 3 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-101B ... r_1958.pdf
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... craft.html
 
#623 – F-102A Delta Dagger (Early)

- Weapon configurations:
--24 FFAR rockets + 3 AIM-4 (IR) + 3 AIM-4 (SARH)
--24 FFAR rockets + 6 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--24 FFAR rockets + 6 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-102A ... y_1958.pdf

#1780, #2743, #3094, #3095 – F-102A Delta Dagger (Nuclear Capable)

- Weapon configurations:
--2 AIM-26A Falcon
--1 AIM-26A + 3 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--1 AIM-26A + 3 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon
--3 AIM-4 (IR) + 3 AIM-4 (SARH)
--6 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--6 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon
--2 AIM-26B Falcon
--1 AIM-26B + 3 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--1 AIM-26B + 3 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-102A ... t_1962.pdf

#1513, #2242 – F-102A Delta Dagger (Export)

- Weapon configurations:
--3 AIM-4 (IR) + 3 AIM-4 (SARH)
--6 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--6 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon
--2 AIM-26B Falcon
--1 AIM-26B + 3 AIM-4 (IR) Falcon
--1 AIM-26B + 3 AIM-4 (SARH) Falcon

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-102A ... t_1962.pdf
 
#663, #1781, #3147, #3148 – F-106A Delta Dart

- Weapon configurations:
--1 AIR-2 Genie + 4 AIM-4F Falcon
--1 AIR-2 Genie + 4 AIM-4G Falcon
--1 AIR-2 Genie + 2 AIM-4F Falcon + 2 AIM-4G Falcon

Source:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-106A ... r_1961.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-106A ... r_1964.pdf
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... -106b.html

Thank you for your attention. Just one question: do you prefer requests in long chunks or in small, digestible bits?
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RE: P-40 Long Track radar should be 3-D capable

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Vietnam Era F-4 Chaff Bombing Loadout:

12x MJU-1 Chaff Bombs (similar in size and shape to M117 750lb bomb), 4x AIM-7 Sparrow

Also, during Linebacker F-4s based at Udorn in Thailand were equipped with ALE-38 chaff dispensers to protect the B-52s.
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RE: P-40 Long Track radar should be 3-D capable

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ORIGINAL: SeaQueen

Vietnam Era F-4 Chaff Bombing Loadout:

12x MJU-1 Chaff Bombs (similar in size and shape to M117 750lb bomb), 4x AIM-7 Sparrow

Also, during Linebacker F-4s based at Udorn in Thailand were equipped with ALE-38 chaff dispensers to protect the B-52s.
Hi SeaQueen all noted btw next CWDB has a major update on Vietnam era Platforms [8D]
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RE: P-40 Long Track radar should be 3-D capable

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Errata: Duke of York (both versions) 5.25" guns have an anti-air PK of 20%

Comparison with similar weapons in other ships suggests it should be 2%

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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Once again, I would like to humbly request a few alterations to the database. Some alterations are to platforms I've requested alterations to before. Your work has been exemplar. I can't imagine how much trouble the Neptune revamp must have given you, and I will be forever grateful to you for bringing to life Portugal's most iconic jet! However, I would like to humbly bring to your attention a few errors that have slipped through.
Once again, I thank you for your effort, patience and attention.

Sensors:

Corrections:

FCE 7 Yellow Fever
Flap Wheel [RPK-1M1 Vaza]
UAR-1021 Skyguard
SCR-584


- Although theses are Fire Control Radars, they lack the “Altitude Info” property, which I find odd, as even the most basic FCR records at least azimuth, elevation and slant range, which by simple trigonometric calculations give altitude and horizontal range.

Facilities:

Requests:

- SPAAA Bty (12.7mm/50 Quad M55/Berliet 6x6 x 4) [Portugal (1953-2000)]

- 12.7mm/50 Quad M55 AAA firing from the flatbed of Berliet 6x6 trucks, capable of hitting air and ground targets.

Source:
https://assets.exercito.pt/SiteAssets/R ... ebView.pdf
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 20Dias.pdf
Col. Borges, João Vieira (2007) “Armamento do Exército Português, Vol. II – Armamento de Artilharia Antiaérea”, Prefácio

- AAA Bty (2cm Flak 38 x 4) [Portugal (1943-1975)]

- Towed, single barreled 20mm anti-aircraft automatic cannon of WWII german vintage.

Source:
https://assets.exercito.pt/SiteAssets/R ... ebView.pdf
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 20Dias.pdf
Col. Borges, João Vieira (2007) “Armamento do Exército Português, Vol. II – Armamento de Artilharia Antiaérea”, Prefácio
 
- AAA Bty (20mm Quad Polsten x 4) [US/Canada/Portugal (1953-1975)]

- Towed, anti-aircraft, quadruple mount for the 20mm Polsten cannon of WWII canadian vintage.

Source:
http://www.anti-aircraft.co.uk/polstenquad.html
https://assets.exercito.pt/SiteAssets/R ... ebView.pdf
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 20Dias.pdf
Col. Borges, João Vieira (2007) “Armamento do Exército Português, Vol. II – Armamento de Artilharia Antiaérea”, Prefácio

- AA No. 4 Mk. VI Radar [UK/Canada/Portugal (1954-1975)]

- Search radar used in conjunction with #3294 – AAA Bty (QF 3.7-inch x 4).
- Seem to be a search radar with limited altitude discrimination (see the altitude precision below). I transcribed the characteristics from Col. Vieira’s book “Anti-Aircraft Artillery of the Portuguese Army”. There is a more complete characteristics sheet in the first link.
- Characteristics:
-- Range: 1 – 58 nm
-- Maximum power: 600 KW
-- Pulse width: 1 microsecond
-- Emission frequency: 3000 MC/s
-- Precision in azimuth: +/- 2º
-- Precision in range: +/- 910 m
-- Precision in altitude: +/- 1550 m

Source:
http://www.anti-aircraft.co.uk/radarNo4Mk6.html
https://assets.exercito.pt/SiteAssets/R ... ebView.pdf
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 20Dias.pdf
Col. Borges, João Vieira (2007) “Armamento do Exército Português, Vol. II – Armamento de Artilharia Antiaérea”, Prefácio

Corrections:

#949 – 12.7mm/50 Quad M55 Towed

- Rename it as “AAA Bty (12.7mm/50 Quad M55 x 4 Towed)”, as the unit has 4 12.7mm mount in-game.
- Add the same unit to Portugal (1953-2000) as well.

Source:
https://assets.exercito.pt/SiteAssets/R ... ebView.pdf
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 20Dias.pdf
Col. Borges, João Vieira (2007) “Armamento do Exército Português, Vol. II – Armamento de Artilharia Antiaérea”, Prefácio
 
#3294 – AAA Bty (QF 3.7-inch x 4)

- Add a Visual Gun Director and a Predictor (don’t know exactly how you would represent this in-game, please ignore if they are already taken into account).
- Add one AA No. 3 Mk. VII FCR.

-- Characteristics of the No 3 Mk VII FCR:
--- Has a Search and Tracking (FCR) modes.
--- Detection range: 0.5 – 32 nm
--- Tracking range: 18 nm
--- Antenna limitation: Elevation (-3º, +85º); Rotation (+/-360º)
--- Antenna rotation speed: 20 RPM, elevation scans every 4 seconds
--- Frequency: 3000 – 3120 MHz
--- Wavelength: 10 – 9.6 cm
--- Impulse duration: 0.55 milliseconds
--- Frequency of the repetition of the impulse: 1.5 KHz
--- Peak radiating power: 200 KW
--- Average radiating power: 165 KW

- Add the same unit for Canada and Portugal (1954-1975)

Source:
https://www.yumpu.com/it/document/view/ ... 3-mark-vii
http://www.duxfordradiosociety.org/rest ... a3mk7.html
https://assets.exercito.pt/SiteAssets/R ... ebView.pdf
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 20Dias.pdf
Col. Borges, João Vieira (2007) “Armamento do Exército Português, Vol. II – Armamento de Artilharia Antiaérea”, Prefácio

#70, #71 – AN/TPS-1D

- Should be a 2D Radar.

#1649 – AN/TPS-1E

- Should have a range of 160nm.

Source:
https://www.yumpu.com/it/document/view/ ... -an-tps-1e
http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/1 ... 26.en.html

Aircraft:

Corrections:

#1075 – SA.319B Alouette III

- Aircraft belongs to Air Force, not Navy
- Service years: (1963 - 2019)
- Missing loadouts: Comandos – 5 Paratroops
 
#3706 – SA.319B Alouette III “Lobo Mau”

- The “Lobo Mau” gunship carried an MG151 20mm cannon firing through the left door in a pallet that replaced all seating/cargo space in the Alouette III. I presume that, because of some game engine limitation that prevents the MG151 of being added as a changeable loadout, you were forced to add the “Lobo Mau” gunship as a separate CWDB entry. As such, perhaps it would be better to remove all loadouts from this entry except a Ferry loadout and a Ground Attack/CAS one.
- Aircraft belongs to Air Force, not Army
- Service years: (1963 - 2019)

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sud_Aviat ... se_service
http://neloolen-modelismo.no.comunidade ... nos-na-fap

#3727, #3728 - FIAT G.91 [Portugal]

- The "Internal Guns" loadout has a 500l drop tank instead of the 520l drop tank that it should have and that other loadouts have.
- Please remove the loadouts that carry 4 x BL.755, 4 x Mk.20 Rockeye and 4 x Mk.77 Incendiary, as the outer pylons of the G.91 were not rated to carry loads over 250 lbs.

#588, #2011, #2013 - P2V Neptune

- These aircraft don't have their radar with a 360º coverage, as was typical of the radars they carried.

#2017 - P2V-5 Neptune

- This aircraft doesn't have the correct radar (the AN/APS-20A) nor the 360º radar coverage typical of it.

#2895 - SP-2H Neptune

- This Argentinian Neptune doesn't have neither the correct sensors (and the 360º radar coverage) nor the correct armament for this aircraft. (More information on weapons and sensors, including source, in this post.)

#948, #2517, #2462, #2249, #2665, #2342, #2107, #1054, #1047, #2595, #3709, #1070, #2203, #1905, #2401, #1875, #2627, #878, #64, #2208, #1811 – F-86F Sabre

- Please remove the 4 x BLU-23/B, 4 x M64 500lbs GPB and 4 x Mk82 500lbs LDGP loadouts, as only the 2 inboard stations of the F-86F could carry bombs.
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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Found datas on Japanese Amphibs in early cold war

OOSUMI tank landing ships (1961-1976) First. was LST 4001 Oosumi (ex Dagget Count LST 689->You might have class in DB alreadies). Transferred to Philippines 1974-1976

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/japan/jap_ls_oosumi.htm

LCU 2001 Landing ships (1955-1975) x6. Not Same as Modern I-go's! All Transfer to Philippines in 1975

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/japan/jap_ls_lcu2001.htm

LCM 101 Landing Crasft

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/japan/jap_ls_lcm1001.htm

Nice page for WWII Japanese stuff too

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/japan/jap_index.htm
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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Could add T-4 Landing Craft for Soviets and clients

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_ls_t4.htm

Soviets 1967
Cuba 1967
Somalia 1968
Yemen 1970
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