Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

[miller7219]

Reviewing the SSN 585 Skipjack class US SSN. Have some suggestions to update the class:

Sensors

As far as I can find from internet sources, Harpoon Annexes, and Janes here's my best guess at original (1959) configuration:

Radar

BPS-11 or SS 2A (I can't pin it down, so would go with BPS-11)

ESM/ELINT

AN/BLR-6 (have found zero data here, but this would be a fair guess I think)

Sonar

AN/BQR-2B (Passive)
AN/BQS-4 Mod 1 (Active)

I can't find any reference to any modernization efforts until the mid-70's (1976 according to Harpoon Annexes) where the Skipjacks where modernized to their final electronic configuration along with the necessary updates to deploy Mk 48's (prior, they could only deploy Mk 37's). My assumption is other than weapon upgrades through the 60's and until 1976 the electronics largely remained original until this upgrade. Seems reasonable considering the Permit and Sturgeon classes where the dominating classes in the 60/70's, while the Skipjack was a small "bridge-development" class between the Nautilus and the first true modern SSN (Permit) produced in quantity:

BPS-12
WLR-1G (hard to find any data on ESM/ELINT, but seems a reasonable replacement for the 1950's vintage BLR-6)
AN/BQS-4 Mod 1 (Active) (retained from original configuration to provide active coverage)
AN/BQR-21 (Passive)(a massive electronic upgrade to the original BQR-2B system)
AN/BQR-25 (Passive-VDS added)
Generic Accoustic Intercept (have found no reference to any acoustic intercept gear anywhere, but seems reasonable some sort of accoustic intercept would have been added)

Weapons

Original loadout would likely have been:

Mk 37 Mod 0
Mk 37 Mod 1
Mk 14
Mk 16
Mk 27 Mod 4 (Maybe. Research indicates they were taken out of service @1960, but I can see them hanging around until the multi-target Mk 48's were introduced in the early 1970's). Add in Mk 45 Astors in the mid-60's as appropriate.

Remove all above and replace with Mk 48's exclusively in 1976 as part of the major electronics update received and the ability gained to deploy them as a result.

Check the signal ejectors. It's missing from some of the Skipjack entries.

I think you only really need probably 3 entries from 1959-1975 and then a final 4th entry for 1976.

[LewisOwen]

The following entry:

#2329 - FF 1052 Knox (United States - 1973)

is supposed to represent the Knox-class frigates that did not receive the Mk-25 BPDMS, but the entry incorrectly comes with a fully loaded BPDMS anyway.

The follow-up entries #2330 and #2336, which are supposed to represent the same hulls for 1977 onwards, appropriately don't come equipped with the Mk-25 BPDMS.

[.Sirius]

No issue will update

[.Sirius]

All fixed

[OsirisRaptor]

The 2003 Lockheed Martin Cormorant MPUAV concept. A multipurpose UAV designed to be launched from an OHIO-class ballistic missile tube. There isn't much hard data. It had stealth features, was tailess, had two internal hardpoints, "1000lb modular payload," and was single engine. It had the landing characteristics of a seaplane but was a tailsitter at heart. It was also hoped to be launch able from the LCS. Hull was titanium with features to enable it to float for recovery by ship, submarine, or AUV.

Conjecture likely points to sensors on part with the F-22 or F-35 minus the radar and recessed hardpoint able to accommodate AIM-9s, SDBs, 500lb and below bombs, Hellfire maybe, etc. It was probably subsonic but visually looks like it could be supersonic. Capabilities in the RQ-170 would be a good starting point. Project cancelled in 2008, introduction timeline would probably have been mid-2010s if fully funded.

Feel free to message me if you want more data.

[OsirisRaptor]

CORMORANT Details published forever ago
https://en.ruvsa.com/catalog/cormorant/

USA Lockheed Martin UAV
Region: USA and Canada Country: USA Category: UAV Company: Lockheed Martin
12
Use(s): reconnaissance and surveillance Manufacturer: Lockheed Martin Powerplant: 3,000lb JP-5 Dimensions: length: 19ft, wingspan: 16ft Weight: MTOW: 9,000lb, max payload: 1,000lb Performance: endurance: 3hr, ceiling: 35,000ft, mission radius: 400-500nm Launch: RATO Recovery: splash down Status: in development

[KLAB]

This thread is for cold war DB requests pre 1979?
The thread below is for more modern stuff.
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3436106

[BDukes]

Hellos

Look like Iran have one P-3F that was harpoon capable. Got certified 1978 and went back to Irans with 18 Harpoon A missile.

https://twitter.com/Kobaz4/status/1314212799451557889
https://twitter.com/Kobaz4/status/1314212809635291140

Thank you!

[.Sirius]

Hi Thanks,
I'll update the platform, not sure when the update will be out though

[SunlitZelkova]

Hi,

There are some issues with DBID #415 SS-2 Sibling. It is currently lacking its ballistic missile DB characteristics, which results in it acting like a cruise missile, among other weird things (despite being a ballistic missile, some transonic fighters tried to intercept it when I was using it the other day).

Please make the following corrections-

Change the "Type" in the General Data section to Ballistic Missile

Add the following properties-

Ballistic Missile (ICBM/IRBM/SRBM)

Warhead - Single Re-Entry Vehicle (RV)

Level Cruise Flight

Thanks!

[.Sirius]

ORIGINAL: SunlitZelkova

Hi,

There are some issues with DBID #415 SS-2 Sibling. It is currently lacking its ballistic missile DB characteristics, which results in it acting like a cruise missile, among other weird things (despite being a ballistic missile, some transonic fighters tried to intercept it when I was using it the other day).

Please make the following corrections-

Change the "Type" in the General Data section to Ballistic Missile

Add the following properties-

Ballistic Missile (ICBM/IRBM/SRBM)

Warhead - Single Re-Entry Vehicle (RV)

Level Cruise Flight

Thanks!

Updated Thanks

[BDukes]

ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi Thanks,
I'll update the platform, not sure when the update will be out though

Ok so next month then!

[tylerblakebrandon]

ORIGINAL: .Sirius

ORIGINAL: tylerblakebrandon

ORIGINAL: Suintila

Could you please update F-86F Sabres in CW database?

-Mount was 1x12.7mm/50 M3 x 6 instead of 2x20mm Mk12 x 2.

-AN/APG-30 range was 3000 yards (not 20nm!). It is a ranging radar.


Thanks

The APG-30 range had been corrected previously but as of CWDB v478 it now has a range of 30nm.

Re Fixed [:)]

You may have corrected this along with the range issue but I just noticed while playing the APG-30 was switched to a surface search radar when the range was increased again. Should be a simple Air Search Ranging set.

[BDukes]

Hi All

Could the West German G.91R/3 Gina be added. West German 1960-1982?

The Federal Republic of Germany placed an order in 1958 for the Fiat G.91R, whose first batch of 50 aircraft would be built in Italy. This first batch of aircraft built for Germany were of the G.91R / 3 versionwhich differed from the Italian version (G.91R / 1) fundamentally in terms of armament, two twin 30 mm DEFA cannons with 125 gun shots instead of the four M2 Browning machine guns, and a better set of avionics (later adapted in the G versions. 91R1A and G.91R1B) and four supports for external load under the wings instead of the two from the initial version. This initial order would be joined by new ones, making a total of 295 G.91R / 3 aircraft acquired by Luftwaffe, but with the exception of the first 50 units, all the rest would be built in Germany by a consortium led by Dornier. After World War II, the G.91 would be the first fighter plane built in German

https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... aft_id=639
https://twitter.com/warplane_porn/statu ... 01/photo/1
https://www.vanwageningen.net/picture/4 ... ry_history
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.com/2017/07 ... -gina.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74812833@N05/8162403342

[PN79]

But there is already West German G.91 R/3 in database. But it needs update because all variants of loadouts have same 145nm strike radius despite clear differences.

[BDukes]

ORIGINAL: PN79

But there is already West German G.91 R/3 in database. But it needs update because all variants of loadouts have same 145nm strike radius despite clear differences.

You're absolutely right. Sorry about that guys.

Mike

[SirTobi]

Hi all

I have noticed that the Submarine PLRB-605 Golf IV is missing his ballistic missiles R-27K SS-N-13.

[tylerblakebrandon]

Messerschmitt Bf 109s and HA-1112 have a fuel burn issue at full throttle. Fuel use drop dramatically at full power.

DB ID #s - 2415, 2416, 2417, 2418, 2419, 2420, 3841

[tylerblakebrandon]

Yak-3's have a fuel burn issue at full throttle. Fuel use drop dramatically at full power to the point of intercontinental range at high altitude.

DB ID #s - 376, 806, 1934, 2411, 2412

[jonpspri]

Playing through the Dawn Strike scenario with CWDB v478 (game build 1147.14).

The AN/APS-20A radar (AEW) on the #3155 - AD-3W Skyraider (United States - 1951) has a search arc limited to forward. What secondary documentation I've found said the AN/APS-20A was a rotating antenna (hence the "guppy" radome under the fuselage. Compare to the AN/APS-20A on #3823 - TBM-3W Avenger (United States - 1946) found in the same scenario.

I think the appropriate change is to give the AN/APS-20A 360-degree coverage on #3155 AD-3W, unless there's a source I've been unable to find that says it was limited on that model