AI is silly

Empires in Arms is the computer version of Australian Design Group classic board game. Empires in Arms is a seven player game of grand strategy set during the Napoleonic period of 1805-1815. The unit scale is corps level with full diplomatic options

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DodgyDave
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ok i play spain, i do no wars first month and just manipulate portugal into ally and naples into influenced, same round, still at first month, England out of the blue declare war on me, now Portugal is FS instead, very nice.

now, england began with their entire fleet in Gibriltar along with a corps and 1I and a depot.

So england move fleet first, just 1 fleet (20H) and nelson to london, rest stays and in london is also the TS fleet.

I move my 1st Heavy fleet to blocade Gibriltar, no brit fleet tries to intercept me, so i move all my HH and Lights there along with all of portugals.

then i move 3 corps representing like all of my troops and fail to get into the city, no problem will wait for them to die out then.

Febuary, i set it so, if France wants me as ally, then i will accept, but instead do France declare me war? lol

England just use first fleet to blocade the french in getting over to england, rest dont even try to make a run into my ships.

I get my turn, i try to assault the brits at gibriltar, but there is none left? guess they died out.

I only fight france for another 2 months, they wanted my Parma state in italy and there is peace, the british fleet moves out and dies on my ships, now England have 20 Heavy and 10 lights and those TS, not sure where those lights where hiding.

Make story short, i end up invading england, russia goes to war on england, french after peace with me, takes on brits, they surrender to france and lose all their lights and is reduced to 12 HH and some TS.

July England surrenders unconditionally to me and i take Scotland, ireland and wales, along with all money next eco and 36 months of peace.

Now i will begin a new game, this was July 1805 england is so DEAD :)
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ohh on the AI front, it think there should be some basic things the AI should do.

1) Start bonus to contain France, Prussia and Austria most likely to ally.
2) England will always set their interception and Gibriltar always have 5I and a depot in city, but i guess something in the rules thats an issue here, you cant have a depot in the city as well, if besiged?

Depot
1) Can you place a garrison on a depot? because i find that i loss most of mine, due to hit and runs, hard to keep a corps around to def them all the time :)
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ohh on the AI front, it think there should be some basic things the AI should do.

1) Start bonus to contain France, Prussia and Austria most likely to ally.
2) England will always set their interception and Gibriltar always have 5I and a depot in city, but i guess something in the rules thats an issue here, you cant have a depot in the city as well, if besiged?

Depot
1) Can you place a garrison on a depot? because i find that i loss most of mine, due to hit and runs, hard to keep a corps around to def them all the time :)

Yes you can create a depot garrison of up to 10i.
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ok, i have to read the rules on how to do that for sure lol
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ok, i have to read the rules on how to do that for sure lol

With a corps in the same area click on the transfer troop buttong (its the one with an arrow between the soldiers) A window pops up with the depot and the corps.

transfer factors up to ten.

Hint: Use militia for garrisons. In cities I like to set them to surrender rather than fight to the last man. They come back after your war is over and are much needed when the next war comes up.
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yeah i found that bit out as well, normally do surrender when i played the boardgame, but had to get used to this game first, so now tend to do Breach:Surrender Sortie:N, which i believe means, you will surrender if breached and will not do Sorties.

Prefer to get my troops back :)
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I hope the AI gets a lift at some point, because its just to silly, as Russia, spain declared war on me February 1805, January 1805 they declared war on portugal, which lapsed from no Spanish invasion on it, so now an English FS.

Need to make sure, they focus on different points, instead of just randomly declaring other major powers war, like the Spain vs Russia one, why? russia have nothing to begin with that Spain wants or needs, they would be better off just focus on Italy and africa, keeping turkey at bay and trying to become allied to either england or france in return for cash :)
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I moved with swedish and dutch ships (2. try) into the english channel, had one swedish corps with me. Next came the british move, I did expect him to go for these ships and return them to the nearest habour like Malomo again - but no reaction. Nelson did not act, nevertheless in the same area. And not a single ship left Le Havre blockade box. I was allowed to occupy London with the swedish corps, and no british corps on the island by now.[&:]
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Seems there is some real big issues with the AI, i had to give up as france, as i had cornered half of the british fleet in london and the last bits around, was in a city, they never moved too and delivered just 1I to defend.

So French, portugal and Danmark is running wild :) so i said, won game, so quit it, still only in 1805 lol
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Seems there is some real big issues with the AI, i had to give up as france, as i had cornered half of the british fleet in london and the last bits around, was in a city, they never moved too and delivered just 1I to defend.

So French, portugal and Danmark is running wild :) so i said, won game, so quit it, still only in 1805 lol

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I am trying to join a game, but its so slow to begin and i bet it will just be 1 month per week at most, so need to join more then 1 game i guess :)

so need to have AI improved or for them to make a faster way of playing over the net :)
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I am trying to join a game, but its so slow to begin and i bet it will just be 1 month per week at most, so need to join more then 1 game i guess :)

so need to have AI improved or for them to make a faster way of playing over the net :)

When in doubt join more games.

I'll play in another if you set it up.
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i have enough problems finding out how to actually start up turns and send it, not that i got one, but read the manual on this, still confused, but i am sure i will get the hang off it, once this first game i joined is going :)

would prefer to just join and not start some, as i have to see how things work in a pbem :)
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I agree. I'm still testing (not playing many turns yet), but here I am playing GB in January 1805, and Prussia declares war on me! If there's one alliance that's absolute in this game, it's that Prussia needs GB as a friend.
 
Well, except if they join the French. But (and I don't know who declared it, because the game didn't tell me), Prussia is ALSO at war with France! Lunacy.
 
Third, Russia seems to have declared war on Sweden in the first turn. This might not seem so bad, until one remembers that all of the sea zones between Sweden and Russia are ice-covered. The war is guaranteed to lapse!
 
This is pretty basic stuff. The AI really needs to be fixed. I can't even play the game enough to get familiar with the interface at this pace. And the interface still needs work.
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I agree. I'm still testing (not playing many turns yet), but here I am playing GB in January 1805, and Prussia declares war on me! If there's one alliance that's absolute in this game, it's that Prussia needs GB as a friend.

Well, except if they join the French. But (and I don't know who declared it, because the game didn't tell me), Prussia is ALSO at war with France! Lunacy.

Third, Russia seems to have declared war on Sweden in the first turn. This might not seem so bad, until one remembers that all of the sea zones between Sweden and Russia are ice-covered. The war is guaranteed to lapse!

This is pretty basic stuff. The AI really needs to be fixed. I can't even play the game enough to get familiar with the interface at this pace. And the interface still needs work.

Russia can enter Sweden through the north.

The AI is tutorial at best right now.

It never was a great opponent but then again when is it ever?
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i am sure the AI could be told what to do, some basic stuff should be easy enough, like England, always keep 5I and later on, just 5M in gibraltar along with at least 1 heavy fleet of 20, to naval guard it, unless harbour is blocaded, there is no way to win over that city.

lots of stuff for varies nation to keep its mind on, that we do as players anyway, ofc we also do stupid moves, because we can, but AI does it too often, like Prussia ending up in war, with the best money ally, it could ever get lol
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You are correct. I forgot about "from the North". Very good.
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Then you have the game I played where the British kept making suicide runs on Paris. I captured Wellington and have no intention of giving him up...
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