ATG College - First season finished!
Moderator: Vic
ATG College - First season finished!
latest lessons:
lessson 12 - flak
lesson 11 - engineers
lesson 10 - staff
lesson 9 - cavalry
previous lessons:
lesson 8 - naval operations
lesson 7 - trains,trucks and halftracks
lesson 6 - aircraft
lesson 5 - artillery
lesson 4 - anti-tank weapons
lesson 3 - tanks
lesson 2 - mortar and machineguns
lesson 1 - rilfe and smg
link:
http://www.vrdesigns.nl/
This also concludes the first season of lessons. I will bundle this in a small booklet in the comming month. It will be a very welcome extra to the manual, especially for new players to ATG!
thank you all for your attention!
best regards,
Vic
lessson 12 - flak
lesson 11 - engineers
lesson 10 - staff
lesson 9 - cavalry
previous lessons:
lesson 8 - naval operations
lesson 7 - trains,trucks and halftracks
lesson 6 - aircraft
lesson 5 - artillery
lesson 4 - anti-tank weapons
lesson 3 - tanks
lesson 2 - mortar and machineguns
lesson 1 - rilfe and smg
link:
http://www.vrdesigns.nl/
This also concludes the first season of lessons. I will bundle this in a small booklet in the comming month. It will be a very welcome extra to the manual, especially for new players to ATG!
thank you all for your attention!
best regards,
Vic
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- Barthheart
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RE: ATG College
This is a great idea Vic. Well done.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
RE: ATG College
I had not realized that infantry was so disadvantaged in attack. Thanks Vic.[X(]
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RE: ATG College
Wise advices, I will follow the articles carefully

RE: ATG College
Very nice, thanks Victor.
Maybe our moderator would be so kind to sticky this thread too?
Maybe our moderator would be so kind to sticky this thread too?
- pvthudson01
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RE: ATG College
Thanks! I am still on the fence on this game. I like my scenarios set in a specific period. This is more of a wargame engine right? I mean it lets people create their own stuff but what if people stop making scenarios for it?
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- JJKettunen
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RE: ATG College
ORIGINAL: pvthudson01
I mean it lets people create their own stuff but what if people stop making scenarios for it?
We have just started!
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RE: ATG College
Looks nice Vic
pvthudson01: That could certainly happen eventually. Although it seems quite unlikely since it seems there is maybe a new scenario per week since it came out. In that you would only have the ca 200 scenarios created so far to play. Let me know when you have played them all ´:)
pvthudson01: That could certainly happen eventually. Although it seems quite unlikely since it seems there is maybe a new scenario per week since it came out. In that you would only have the ca 200 scenarios created so far to play. Let me know when you have played them all ´:)
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RE: ATG College
Great idea Vic, will really help those new to the game, and may even enlighten some of the ones that have been playing for a while. I know I still have a lot to learn, so I'll be keeping an eye on your articles regularly.
RE: ATG College
This is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered. I will be reading with interest.
RE: ATG College
I wouldn't say that the exact calculus for infantry on attack vs. defense is accurate, since there's still pinning hits, retreating hits, aiming at favorite targets, and numbers of attacks to take into consideration. Even though infantry on defense with entrenchment have an advantage, they still seem to be limited to 1 attack per man. This means that human wave attacks do not need 4-to-1 or 8-to-1 ratios to dislodge the defenders (although human wave attacks are still inefficient, I've tried them many times in the game engine). Sometimes well-staffed high-morale human waves only need 3-to-1, or even 2-to-1 ratios if the enemy doesn't have machine guns.
I also disagree that infantry's only purpose for riding on armour is to serve as armor for the armour. Tanks typically have poor recon values, which means that they can easily suffer from surprise. And, although they do have many attacks each, they still have to make tries at favorite targets. Infantry have different preferences for favorite targets, and thus may be able to get rid of extraneous units so that tanks can focus on attacking more important targets.
I also disagree that infantry's only purpose for riding on armour is to serve as armor for the armour. Tanks typically have poor recon values, which means that they can easily suffer from surprise. And, although they do have many attacks each, they still have to make tries at favorite targets. Infantry have different preferences for favorite targets, and thus may be able to get rid of extraneous units so that tanks can focus on attacking more important targets.
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RE: ATG College
thanks, Vic. I will watch for the next installment.
RE: ATG College
Very nice, please more installments! Also, thank you for a wonderful game.
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RE: ATG College
ORIGINAL: SSFSX17
Sometimes well-staffed high-morale human waves only need 3-to-1, or even 2-to-1 ratios if the enemy doesn't have machine guns.
...and that is how it should be. Units don't fight in a line evenly distributed, but the attacker can always outmanoeuvre the defender, while the latter has to cover more ground not knowing where the attack is going to happen exactly.
Imagine a situation where the defender has 10 rifle coys manning the frontline (no reserves) and the attacker has 20 coys (ratio is 2 to 1). The attacker can set 7 rifle coys to man his lines, enough to keep the enemy at bay, and break the opposition lines with the other 14 coys at the place of his choosing.
Jyri Kettunen
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RE: ATG College
Just posted another lesson.
best,
Vic
best,
Vic
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RE: ATG College
"Oh Vic, More you bad boy! Give us all you got!!! More, More More!!! Don't Stop, Dont Stop. Oh God, Dont Stop you bad boy!"
Seriously, Is lesson 2 the only installment ready so far? - "you bad boy"
Seriously, Is lesson 2 the only installment ready so far? - "you bad boy"
RE: ATG College
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RE: ATG College
Will your mods work with Gold?ORIGINAL: Grymme
Looks nice Vic
pvthudson01: That could certainly happen eventually. Although it seems quite unlikely since it seems there is maybe a new scenario per week since it came out. In that you would only have the ca 200 scenarios created so far to play. Let me know when you have played them all ´:)
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