WaW v32 Germany versus the world! AI++
Moderator: Vic
RE: Gates of Moscow
Great aar thanks,this was one of 4 games i was buying here,and think it will be a mutiplayer hit,but some of us just prefer to play the AI and when a newbie can smash the AI on hardest level.well that says everything about the AI that i need to know,so sad because this game looks incredible.i think ill have to pass,i just hate the cheating and quiting in multi, thats why i stick to solo games now,im going to buy GOA.if there is AI update on AT then ill get it to.Thanks again for AAR you saved me time and money.cheers terry.
RE: Gates of Moscow
Just to be fair - the AI in _every_ single game you will ever buy is weak. This scenario in particular is very tough for any AI to handle because there is air, navy, ground to coordinate, long supply lines, and production dispersed across several continents. Really the AI does a lot better in a simple ground campaign, and I've seen comments on here by newbies about losing to the AI in the russian campaign.
- british exil
- Posts: 1686
- Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 6:26 pm
- Location: Lower Saxony Germany
RE: Gates of Moscow
Too true,
Got beaten by Russia playing my first Russian game.
Was a bit too slow in starting up my war maschine, didn't want to move as fast as I should. By the time I had the nerve to attack the enemy was just too strong.
The AI will always be a little weak, I was just a little weaker than the AI.
Next time I hope to be a better general.
Got beaten by Russia playing my first Russian game.
Was a bit too slow in starting up my war maschine, didn't want to move as fast as I should. By the time I had the nerve to attack the enemy was just too strong.
The AI will always be a little weak, I was just a little weaker than the AI.
Next time I hope to be a better general.
"It is not enough to expect a man to pay for the best, you must also give him what he pays for." Alfred Dunhill
WitE,UV,AT,ATG,FoF,FPCRS
WitE,UV,AT,ATG,FoF,FPCRS
RE: Gates of Moscow
@bwheatley
I wonder about the huge losses and the production you talked about (100 Medium tanks).
Did you tweak the unit costs or do you play with bigger cities ?
In a normal game this is not possible since the production is very limited.
Alone your battleship group looks more than funny....
I wonder about the huge losses and the production you talked about (100 Medium tanks).
Did you tweak the unit costs or do you play with bigger cities ?
In a normal game this is not possible since the production is very limited.
Alone your battleship group looks more than funny....
RE: Gates of Moscow
Lol, just saw it´s already 1949.
Mhh, in 10 years you can build up a powerful army.
Did you use engineers to build additional factories ?
Did not read the full AAR....
Mhh, in 10 years you can build up a powerful army.
Did you use engineers to build additional factories ?
Did not read the full AAR....
RE: Gates of Moscow
@R.E.LEE this scen is a hard one for the AI to corrindate it still did give me a challenge though maybe more then i expressed
.
@seille Yea i've built a ton of factories since i need all my cities for supply and i have to build only tanks becuase i'm out of manpower mostly so hordes of infantry are not possible.

@seille Yea i've built a ton of factories since i need all my cities for supply and i have to build only tanks becuase i'm out of manpower mostly so hordes of infantry are not possible.

-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
Looks like we took some dramatic losses trying to take the US. Also i've been told i'm once again short of manpower. So i have to cut back on infantry production again.


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_1.jpg (129.3 KiB) Viewed 669 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
This is the last attack in a series of 10 attacks!


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_2.jpg (192.05 KiB) Viewed 669 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-
- Posts: 507
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:58 am
- Location: Netherlands
RE: Gates of Moscow
Hmm, tough situation. Moutains call for inf, but you're short on manpower... not much chance of encircling that 1101 stack... maybe a large encirclement via the south? But then you need engineers as well to build a bridge.
Good luck.
Good luck.
RE: Gates of Moscow
I'll have some screens when i get home but needless to say the AI has mounted a valient defense. They have brought in hundreds of tanks and i had DC, NYC & Boston and now i'm down ot just boston. I was holding at NYC for awhile and i blew the bridges but the AI built another bridge and wiped me out. I even was using bombers to completely level 2 interior cities every turn but still i can't kill his troops fast enough. I also just took austrailia so i might be able to launch a 2 pronged german advanced into the us from east and west!
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
I had a ton of infantry and i held them but they eventually overwhelmed me. It pretty inpressive for a couple of years i have not been used to someone pushing me back. Since i broke the soviets back it was all germany all the time. Now i'm actually getting hammered. If i can't stop them outside boston i'm going to lose about 300 planes..100 Levelbombers, 100 Divebombers and 100 fighters.
That would be a little annoying!
That would be a little annoying!

-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-
- Posts: 507
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:58 am
- Location: Netherlands
RE: Gates of Moscow
ORIGINAL: bwheatley
I'll have some screens when i get home but needless to say the AI has mounted a valient defense. They have brought in hundreds of tanks and i had DC, NYC & Boston and now i'm down ot just boston. I was holding at NYC for awhile and i blew the bridges but the AI built another bridge and wiped me out. I even was using bombers to completely level 2 interior cities every turn but still i can't kill his troops fast enough. I also just took austrailia so i might be able to launch a 2 pronged german advanced into the us from east and west!
The AI built a bridge? Blasphemy I say!
A 2 pronged attack on the US [:)] that's even beyond Rommel's wildest dreams, hehehe.
Personally I think it's a matter of time before you defeat the AI. Because you play at AI++ it has a huge production advantage, meaning it can throw masses of everything at you... but it's not great at the larger strategic picture. I think you will be able to pull it off eventually... I hope [;)]
Hmm, did you already start improving the Atlantik Wall?
RE: Gates of Moscow
Ya i've never seen the AI build a bridge and this time it built a new bridge it didnt even repair the old one. I actually dismantled the atlantic wall i have full sea superioirty and if i get repulsed i will just reland later with even more troops!. Seems to me if i can land on east and west at once the AI wont throw everything at me on either end so i might be able to survive.
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
The us is hitting back this is while i still had DC, NYC & Boston. I lost DC on this turn.


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_1.jpg (129.3 KiB) Viewed 673 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
We lose our buffer hex as american reinforcements come pouring in!


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_2.jpg (192.05 KiB) Viewed 673 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
Actually dc falls on this turn!


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_a_1.jpg (124.01 KiB) Viewed 673 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
DC has fallen to the wave of american troops. Even with awesome and complete air superioirty the allies have stormed back when i thought this was just a cake walk.


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_a_2.jpg (141.54 KiB) Viewed 673 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
RE: Gates of Moscow
New york is hanging on becuase i blew the bridge!


- Attachments
-
- selfgame_c_1.jpg (190.54 KiB) Viewed 673 times
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-
- Posts: 507
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:58 am
- Location: Netherlands
RE: Gates of Moscow
I'm just wondering, how high is the exp. of the US troops?
RE: Gates of Moscow
I'll check in a few minutes.
-Alpha Tester Carrier Force
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command
-Beta Tester ATG
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's WAW mod
- Mod Maintainer (past) for ATG's GPW mod
-Beta Tester WITE
-Alpha Tester WITW
-Alpha Tester WITE2
-Alpha Tester Wif
-Beta Tester Command