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auto save AP for firing not working

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I have the option toggled to auto save AP's for firing in the option menu for all my units and it doesn't appear to apply. I clicked the option and even restarted the program and still my units aren't auto saving AP's for firing. Can anyone confirm this. I assume with the option toggled in globally the little icon would show on all unit counters.
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RE: auto save AP for firing not working

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You're correct.

It works for individual units (after you select them), but not from the menu.

We'll look into that and correct it for 1.01.

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RE: auto save AP for firing not working

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Not a bug. WAD, I think.

Try the following experiment.

[*]Launch the Picnic at Tel al Ful scenario.
[*]Select the northernmost Israeli Armoured 61 B.
[*]Toggle ReacHable hexes (H hot key).
[*]Open the Options menu, and verify that Auto Save AP's for Firing is toggled ON. (In the initial installation, it is set to ON by default.)

You should see something like this:

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Note the limited extent of the reachable hexes.

Now, with that unit still selected, open Units, and click on Save AP's for Firing (Ctrl-F).

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When the menu goes away, you should see this:

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As you can see, the reachable area is now wider. Save AP's for Firing was initially set to ON, all units, globally by default. By clicking the Units > Save AP's for Firing, for the selected unit you have now toggled it OFF -- i.e., for that unit, you are not conserving AP's for Firing, so it has all of its AP's available for moving, so its reachable extent is now wider.

You can further experiment by continually toggling back and forth any of

[*]Units > Save AP's for Firing
[*]Hot key Ctrl-F
[*]the Tool Bar icon

The effect is the same. As you toggle, you will see the reachable extent expand and contract.

Try other units. Try toggling any of the above. For those other units also, you will see the reachable extent expand and contract. On first toggle, you will see the reachable extent expand. Again confirming that, initially, by default, the Options > Auto Save AP's for Firing is set to ON and applying globally, all units.

Was it a good thing to ship the game with, by default, Options > Auto Save AP's for Firing toggled ON? Debatable.

But anyway, it's a bit tricky, but I assert this is not broken, no bug, it is all in fact WAD.
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RE: auto save AP for firing not working

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Options > Auto Save AP's for Firing.

Unfortunately, the global application of this, all units, only takes effect at game startup. Apparently, you can't toggle ON/OFF this feature globally, all units, in game. In game, you can only toggle ON/OFF for selected units, using Units > Save AP's for Firing, else by using the hot key Ctrl-F, else the Tool Bar icon.

So, be careful to decide what you want your default playing mode to be. If you prefer that all units by default save AP's for firing, leave that toggled ON in the Options menu, never change it. If instead you prefer that all units by default do not save AP's for firing, toggle that OFF in the Options menu (and never change it), quit the game, then restart.

In any case, you always have the option to toggle the feature ON/OFF for individual units, in game, using any of the three available toggling options (menu, hot key, icon), without having to quit and restart.

I have verified that this all works the same in JTCS 2.02, JTCS 1.04, all the way back to JTCS 1.00 even. The inability to toggle this ON/OFF globally, all units, in game -- it's legacy WAD!
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RE: auto save AP for firing not working

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your right sir, i think my mistake was when i restarted the game i didn't quit the game totally but just went back to the main menu and restarted the game. Either way today all my units are saving AP's for firing. Thanks.
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