Understanding refueling

[MartialDoctor]

Hey all,

I was under the impression that any area with one of those blue fuel icons was a refueling spot. I have a fleet out far from my homeworlds which won't refuel there and was wondering why that could be. I am in good relations with that race and have a free trade agreement with them.

Thanks.

[Data]

You are correct MD, but having fuel and having enough fuel are two different things. Especially whan fleets are involved; if you send a single ship from that fleet does it refuel there?

[cookie monster]

A blue fuel icon means there is fuel available but probably not enough for a fleet.

A fleet refuel command sends them to the nearest location which is able to refuel the WHOLE fleet.

Mining stations have plenty of Caslon/Hydrogen available but it's all tied up in reserve for the cargo ship which rarely visits.

[MartialDoctor]

Ah, ok then.  Let me try each individual ship to see if that changes anything.

[ollobrains]

did individual orders change it ?

[cookie monster]

There's actually fuel at every gas mining station on top of a caslon/hydrogen source.

But it's all reserved. Probably for other base type objects fuel bunkers. Shame they can live on solar power 99% of the time.

I've begun trade sanctioning the galaxy weaklings just to free up my private sector from reserving goods for them.

[Moltrey]

I see said the blind man.

Now some of the behavior of individual ships within a fleet make sense. So does no longer refueling at the closest refueling station that was available a few moments ago.
Thanks guys for the clarification. I had always wondered what the blue cylinder symbol was...

[gijas17]

I never usually have trouble with refueling as its automated. Playing under 1.5.8 and the ROTS expansion that is.

[Data]

Could it be that you also do not aggresively expand in the early game? That tends to bring this up, auto or no auto afaik

[Cosian]

I also never seem to have fuel problems ..... but I also construct lots of gas mining stations. I also use resupply ships for fleet operating on the fringes of my territory. The first thing I always do when colonizing is make to sure to build sufficient nearby gas mining stations.....even if the expansion planner does not consider them a priority. I also design my private sector ships to be cheap and fast ... I don't weaponize them....this seems to improve the speed and efficiency for how goods move around.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

There's actually fuel at every gas mining station on top of a caslon/hydrogen source.

But it's all reserved. Probably for other base type objects fuel bunkers. Shame they can live on solar power 99% of the time.

I've begun trade sanctioning the galaxy weaklings just to free up my private sector from reserving goods for them.

Under the latest patch you can set a policy not to refuel any ships but those that have trade agreements or MDPs. That is my setting by default.

Unfortunately, I think only sanctions will stop the refueling of civilian ships. [&:]

[Data]

Yap, this is how it works atm. I wonder if we can have for an option to not trade goods above a reserved limit that we set without breaking the private sector economy; or maybe have this only for caslon / hydrogen.

[freeboy]

Is there another option, wht if we put a base near the minisg station.. could it pull fuel?

[Data]

It would still rely on freighters, I'm afraid it will not work afaik

[Cosian]

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

There's actually fuel at every gas mining station on top of a caslon/hydrogen source.

But it's all reserved. Probably for other base type objects fuel bunkers. Shame they can live on solar power 99% of the time.

I've begun trade sanctioning the galaxy weaklings just to free up my private sector from reserving goods for them.

It is not always reserved. If all your fuel at gas mining moons for Caslon and Hydrogen is always fully reserved, you don't have enough of them and its a clear indicator you will have fueling problems.

One other tip ..... if you select a fleet and hit the refuel and repair button on the fleet card in the lower left corner, a Refuel at nearest space port command is executed. If you select the fleet on the map and right click, you can select the refuel nearest option which will send them to the nearest refuel point which includes gas mining stations and deployed resupply ships. My experience is that this is the best way to refuel rather than hitting the refuel and repair button and refueling at space ports. I almost always refuel at GM stations.

[Data]

Good tip, Cosian