WitE 2

[uw06670]

an HQ all its reporting units change to the same colour

certainly on Map they do, I love this feature. Not sure about inside reports.

[juv95hrn]

ORIGINAL: Telemecus

ORIGINAL: juv95hrn

If it hasnt been feature request before, being able to change colour of more units than one, at the same time, would be great. In regards to the commanders report functionality that is.

never used it myself but been told if you change the colour of an HQ all its reporting units change to the same colour

Yes, its true. But there is no easy way to mark/colour many units that arent all connected to the same HQ, at the same time.

[uw06670]

Has anyone asked for an optional "Turn 0" feature?

In my mind it would allow limited adjustments to be made, not a full free setup. Think of everything in place for Turn 1, but allow things like unit assignment changes and support unit shuffling, perhaps for little or no cost. It won't have a material change on things like how a leader change could. but would help make things more organized without having to jump through other hoops. Optional switch like soviet +1 and such.

[Laits]

I agree. It could be an option (like a gentleman agreement) which would allows different starts and more uncertainty for the other side.

[RedLancer]

ORIGINAL: uw06670

Has anyone asked for an optional "Turn 0" feature?

In my mind it would allow limited adjustments to be made, not a full free setup. Think of everything in place for Turn 1, but allow things like unit assignment changes and support unit shuffling, perhaps for little or no cost. It won't have a material change on things like how a leader change could. but would help make things more organized without having to jump through other hoops. Optional switch like soviet +1 and such.

It has been requested frequently. My understanding is that it is simply not possible with the current game engine. The solution is to use the editor.

[DorianGray]

nothing to see here

[Cavalry Corp]

I also agree with this idea. It is quite tiresome to see some players post ways to get to certain points on the map on the first turn knowing where every Russian unit is. That is derogatory to the game.
In an ideal world it would be nice to have a set up turn where units are placed within say five hexes of their HQ which would be in an approximate historical position. You can of course have the historical setup if you like I for one would not choose that.

[thedoctorking]

Has anybody played a game using the editor for initial setup? If so, what house rules did you use?

Maybe this option should be explained in the manual.

[loki100]

Prob a request best in the tester forum?

[DorianGray]

ORIGINAL: cavalry

I also agree with this idea. It is quite tiresome to see some players post ways to get to certain points on the map on the first turn knowing where every Russian unit is. That is derogatory to the game.
In an ideal world it would be nice to have a set up turn where units are placed within say five hexes of their HQ which would be in an approximate historical position. You can of course have the historical setup if you like I for one would not choose that.

Actually, I am a bit surprised the locations are fixed and not a bit randomized.

I am thinking, at least for the Soviets, that there should be some core units that are fixed to make sure certain physical locations are garrisoned.

But then, as many as 50% of Soviets could have starting location randomized a bit, by as much as 1 or 2 hexes in any direction.

In the extreme, even if you took all Soviet counters and just physically dropped them on the map (next to the border), would it be any worse than current static deployment?

I highly doubt it would be and, at the least, it would stop some of the 1st turn gaminess on the part of Germany.

[56ajax]

The game aims to be reasonably historical. Soviet morale (and experience?) is randomised on T1 to make it less predicatable but the Axis advantage on the opening turn is so massive no one notices.

[821Bobo]

I can not understand the never ending complains about perfect Axis T1. The game has 250+ turns, not just one.
Allowing Soviets to shuffle units would result in opposite situation with massing units in places that are obvious paths for Panzers. And that is much more unrealistic.
Allowing to move only few would not change anything except Soviet player's impression that now it is better than the default setting.

[uw06670]

because if T1 isn't 'realistic' its an obvious flaw

[821Bobo]

ORIGINAL: uw06670

because if T1 isn't 'realistic' its an obvious flaw

Yes, thats the point, enlist and see the war...

[uw06670]

T1 being flawed is 'the point'? I don't get you.

[JamesM]

So what are the chances that this game will be released this year?

[uw06670]

When Koalas fly?

Sorry, just some humor.

If its in Alpha now (so I've heard) I hope it doesn't release soon. 1 full war match takes a loooooong time to conduct. And without a lot of play time by Alpha/Beta people there are going to be issues that need patches.

[Cavalry Corp]

ORIGINAL: DorianGray

ORIGINAL: cavalry

I also agree with this idea. It is quite tiresome to see some players post ways to get to certain points on the map on the first turn knowing where every Russian unit is. That is derogatory to the game.
In an ideal world it would be nice to have a set up turn where units are placed within say five hexes of their HQ which would be in an approximate historical position. You can of course have the historical setup if you like I for one would not choose that.

Actually, I am a bit surprised the locations are fixed and not a bit randomized.

I am thinking, at least for the Soviets, that there should be some core units that are fixed to make sure certain physical locations are garrisoned.

But then, as many as 50% of Soviets could have starting location randomized a bit, by as much as 1 or 2 hexes in any direction.

In the extreme, even if you took all Soviet counters and just physically dropped them on the map (next to the border), would it be any worse than current static deployment?

I highly doubt it would be and, at the least, it would stop some of the 1st turn gaminess on the part of Germany.

Agree 100% - do not want to see the Ruskies get killed on T1 or block the panzer routes but also do not want to see maths formulas boffins as generals

[Zemke]

I want the game badly. Perhaps increasing the number of testers would speed the process, I am willing to play either German or Russian against a human opponent, and I would still pay full price for the game.

[countrboy]

I started a PBEM game recently and my opponent didn't make 'the perfect first turn', which I appreciated. Sure he pocketed a heap of my Russian units, but it wasn't worked out to 20 decimal points. The first turn really needs some random element, otherwise really, why not just start the game on Turn 2, with the Germans already in perfect position?