Gary Grigsby's War in the East Open Beta 1.12.05

[Telemecus]

Leaders have never been immortal - killed in action leaders are normal in WitE1 since the earliest patches.

[MaXXOltt]

Leaders have never been immortal - killed in action leaders are normal in WitE1 since the earliest patches.

Hmmm, I remember they were killed during combat phase in earlier versions, prior to 1.08, and it happend quite often, but since 1.08 it never happened. It happend couple of times during logistic phase, but never again in combat...
I'm puzzled

[Telemecus]

ORIGINAL: MaXXOltt

Leaders have never been immortal - killed in action leaders are normal in WitE1 since the earliest patches.

Hmmm, I remember they were killed during combat phase in earlier versions, prior to 1.08, and it happend quite often, but since 1.08 it never happened. It happend couple of times during logistic phase, but never again in combat...
I'm puzzled

that is true - I remember the pop ups you could get when is said X has been killed

They did change the formulas for in turn deaths, I think at the same time as they changed the rules to prevent HQ bombing. I think the thought is the ones that happen during the logistics phase are more than enough to represent deaths you should have.

[MaXXOltt]

They did change the formulas for in turn deaths, I think at the same time as they changed the rules to prevent HQ bombing

Yes, as I remember it was introduced in 1.08

I think the thought is the ones that happen during the logistics phase are more than enough to represent deaths you should have.

I persanally want more[:D],but of course, if most gamers agree with the current death rate of leaders, then I think there is no need to change anything. And I think that most players do not experience any problems with the current state of leaders fate.

[Telemecus]

There might be a fair debate of whether the death rate should be upped. German Generals for example do not go west, even when they historically did. There is no withdrawal schedule for leaders!

Nevertheless you can still see some complaining about losing leaders in v1.11 fb.asp?m=4350830

[MaXXOltt]

I think that if everyone is happy - then there isn’t much point in the discussions - we won’t load the developers with unnecessary work.[:)]
Vox populi...[:)]

[morvael]

It's hard to balance that formula, perhaps it should have some hard caps rather than just plain chance of happening. Make it slightly too big, and no famous Soviet general will survive the war. I still remember it, having been on recieving end.
Chance is now very very low, and this seems preferred by players, even when not enough generals bite the dust.

[joelmar]

I think the problem is more acute for Soviets and I can understand frustration in loosing some of the few Soviet really good generals and the long term effects on the game. I agree it's probably best to leave it as it is.

[MaB1708]

ORIGINAL: morvael

ORIGINAL: MaB1708

Excellent, but one question I have not been able to answer even after a long search: all the information in the turn supply detail window, where is that documented? Even the percentages in the middle section remain unclear.
Cheers,
Marv

I have posted images with text overlays what those values mean a few times on this forum (for older version, and for current version). Maybe someone will help you find them

Fantastic, looking forward to someone who helps me with that. Search function obvioulsy did not and hourlong browsing of threads with "supply" "turn supply" "supply detail" and whatnot has not helped. Yes there is some info here and there, particularly on the new layout (if anyone else is looking for that, its in the patchnotes for 1.12.00, App. A(it might slip your attention if you do not spend every day with this simulation)). All other information on the turn supply detail window I have an IDEA about the most obvious ones and for the rest I am currently picking info bit by bit (like some of the numbers in parenthesis). Not always an easy task as these might have changed over the years too.

So if someone is aware of the overlays Morvael mentioned or any other overview of the CURRENT version of the Unit Supply detail window I would be thankfull to have a look.

I have tried hard to get all the info on this - and other - matters for the last days (and nights), doing my own writeup of important stuff, reading dozens of threads here and on Steam. The impression that I am just to lazy to look for info is wrong so please stand back from any patronizing attitude.

Cheers and thanks for all your incredible contributions Morvael. I am aware of them but have not been able so far to use them. Tried several times to tame this sim that I own for years. This time I am serious

[eskuche]

See here a few posts down:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4760396

[chaos45]

General losses should not be increased....is several times when Generals were flown out of pockets during the war. Even planes sent in at the last moment to pull out specific commanders/personnel so even if the HQ is destroyed the General and key staff could and did historically escape the pocket in small planes.

[MaB1708]

ORIGINAL: eskuche

See here a few posts down:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4760396

Thank you morvael for pointing me in a good direction and eskuche for remembering where to find it. Really helpfull!

[morvael]

Thanks eskuche.

I think this is direct link: fb.asp?m=4760480

[ErickRepie]

Dear Moravael,

YOur commitment to WITE patch amazed me , i wish for your enduring health, joy and prosperity in this world.
JBU


Tks,

[MaB1708]

ORIGINAL: ErickRepie

Dear Moravael,

YOur commitment to WITE patch amazed me , i wish for your enduring health, joy and prosperity in this world.
JBU


Tks,

^^^
Well said! +1!

[Leutius]

I´m trying to assign support from Army Group North to the XXIII Corps and it is not appearing on the list of possibilities, however, If I use other HQ it is present on the list of options (1.12.95 Beta)

[Telemecus]

ORIGINAL: Leutius

I´m trying to assign support from Army Group North to the XXIII Corps and it is not appearing on the list of possibilities, however, If I use other HQ it is present on the list of options (1.12.95 Beta)

Sounds like the AGN HQ is to far away to reassign support units to it. Alternatively why not go to the HQ of XXIII corps and assign a support unit by the "pull down" method. You should find plenty available that way.

[Jemus]

What is the current status of this beta patch? Is it playable or are there more hotfixes coming? Will there be an official release soon? Maybe someone could give me his opinion. Playing a whole campaign takes an amount of time and it would be annoying to find some serious bugs after awhile.

Thanks a lot for your help + answer!

Jemus

[GPT55]

I observed a level 5.1 fort containing a German infantry division being destroyed in a single attack. Maybe it's reasonable because of the overwhelming odds and artillery (3 divisions), but I didn't expect it. Is this intended? In this case the fort was surrounded, but I also observed a 4.1 level fort that was not surrounded destroyed in a single attack (similar artillery).

[GPT55]

Another unexpected event: I had a guards mech corps surrender when it was not out of supply (at end of Soviet turn). The picture shows unit information at the beginning of the Soviet turn (from reload). It was attaced only once, and surrendered (next post).