Saper (Axis) vs Tyrone (Soviet). (no Saper)

[chaos45]

if you rout that 11=17 stack think that will doom the encircled units.

Dont see how he can recover...also not sure letting the other encirclement attrit away was the best idea....as attrition losses= recoverable losses...while captured/surrendered dont go into the recoverable pool for the trickle of extra replacements per turn.

[Sammy5IsAlive]

It may be too late but with it being snow now and there being lots of Panzers hanging around in the area I'd be getting out of dodge in the south. Obviously it is frustrating abandoning the potential pocket but from my perspective you are now in the driving seat strategically and it is your opponent who has the most to gain from a crazy pocket/counter-pocket battle royale. IMHO you are forward enough in the South that you can trade space for time all the way through 42 and then really put the hurt on him coming out from your good position in the North from 43 onwards.

Are all of his panzer/mot units accounted for at the moment? you were keeping track of them earlier in the AAR.

Although maybe I'm a yellow-bellied coward! Stalin would have no stock in these notions of retreat!

[smokindave34]

I'm normally a cautious player but at this point I'd go for the knockout punch in the south. I don't see much in the way of strong axis forces east of D and Z town. You have the potential to trap the few mobile units he has there also if he gets too aggressive in his relief effort.

Thanks for sharing this....one of the wildest games I can remember.

[tyronec]

T38.

The +1 is over though still some Mild Blizzard effects.
Have done a recount on Axis armour, just a couple missing and no visible movement north/south.
Have begun to reduce the isolated pocket, my logic in leaving them was to delay their return but with heavy losses during the blizzard am thinking Axis won't have so much spare manpower. Will give my tank brigades a few wins

Moscow area. Cut the Moscow rail line, can only manage a few attacks elsewhere.
Stalino area. Make the three attacks (the 17 & 23 stacks and another to the north) and restore a 3 hex gap to the pocket, with some good troops in the way this time. Have tried to set up so that the best troops have retreat hexes, and a few units on reserve.

The retreat begins though will continue to stay in place around the Moscow salient until the mud, don't think the occupants can have enough supply to launch an offensive for now.

[tyronec]

Saper has conceded.
Game OOB and losses:

[SparkleyTits]

Tyronec our lord and saviour [8D]

Good job man, incredible work that winter was an excellent read!

[HardLuckYetAgain]

Congrats & good luck on your next game.

[Telemecus]

Fabulous game and AAR

[Mamluke]

Amazing and intense game! great work for the both of you. superb blizzard offensive!

[smokindave34]

Agreed - great job. Congratulations!

[beender]

Amazing to see such an encirclement in 1941, by Soviet!