BrianG v Smokindave34 ( SMOKIN now allowed)

[HardLuckYetAgain]

I believe I would surrender from what I see on the pictures if I were Germans. But that is just me.

[No idea]

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

I believe I would surrender from what I see on the pictures if I were Germans. But that is just me.

It would be hard not to surrender. But I hate when the german player does that. After all now it is the soviet "turn" to have fun woth encirclements. It once happened to me in October 41. I had managed to cut 3 panzerkorps just before mud. The german player threw the towel, and I was left with the feeling that I had been cheated after a desperate struggle to save my units for months.

Ps. Perhaps, to avoid these kind of surrenders, the game should allow to implement new objectives to win the game. That way both players should have an incentive to not throw the towel.

[timmyab]

I think a surrender is perfectly acceptable here. I'd say there's more like three pz armies in that pocket. Totally terminal if they can't be rescued.
I would play on if my opponent insisted, but purely in defensive mode to cut down on time wasted on a game that's over already.

[Icier]

Must agree, lost units too many units. Even though they will reappear as hulls, they will suck off all the equipment/men leaving the front gutted. ... although I feel for No Idea & other Soviet players not being able in getting their "licks" in.

[BrianG]

Dave wrote back the that although he again saved his panzers his position had become too hopeless.

GAME OVER

Good game Dave.

[BrianG]

quote:There was another game that had units all over the place on both sides that BrianG was involved in. Will see where this one becomes that wont be this one.

well maybe it indeed became another 'units all over' game

[SparkleyTits]

Well played & good job to the both of you

[John B.]

Great AAR, thanks for writing it.

[EwaldvonKleist]

+1

[STEF78]

Nice job, tense battle!