Beender vs Chaos45-Soviets concede T17.

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OOB T10---the losses in the south make a dent in my OOB.

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T10- total losses.

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Far north---we start to retreat as the defenses by the lake are pocketed....is no more ability to buy to time. Again I must not understand WW2 history very well because the Germans are just amazingly fast and well supplied lol.

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north center- the pocket...they are doomed

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Center--well after attacking my lines...then getting isolated....then having interdiction from zocs on their supply lines---the germans still manage to punch through the initial line of my defenses and already destroy 2 of the forts....pretty much compromising the only chance to defend moscow because soviets dig so slow I wont be able to rebuild any forts basically.

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South---I run- as the germans are mean nasty and fast and my soviets have no chance in a fight with them....save what I can is the only choice. Yes the germans were tactically better...but the logistics situation is much, much to rosy for them this far forward in 1941...he is well, well ahead of historical and still well supplied. Patch team needs to fix some things me thinks.

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Crimea- germans take Kerch...not like the soviets can defend anything at all under this patch version.....just my opinion maybe but the CV differences are insane, and soviets dig like grandmas this edition of the game.

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OOB- no real gain, with the super fast german advance ive already lost alot of population so my overall army is very quickly feeling the effects. By winter I will prolly be recruiting only around 100k men a week and less in 1942, will prolly be game over...also I think under this patch Stalingrad is achievable for the germans in 1941....nerf germans some please they are over the top- less fuel, slower rail repair esp in the baltics are probably needed.

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North the great retreat-Notice the panzer division is a rock we must just go around...its like 20 CV.....

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Center- nothing good-prolly going to lose moscow but trying to buy time till mud--which really In my opinion is a game issue the Germans should not be so fast that moscow is under attack this quickly this heavily...just my thoughts. Pretty sure historical when mud hit the line was still well to the west.

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South- run, run, run---but have to defend factories at V still.

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far south---ya nothing good...my entire army with bombing support couldnt push back 1 German motorized division lol....also look the germans walked across Kerch easy nuff lol.

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OOB

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Losses

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

North--still attempting to delay the move around the lake. You may be asking why I didnt destroy that motorized division--- because in 1 turn it managed to build a lvl 1 fort and was showing fully supplied with 45 CV......Is no way I can amass enough CV to push 45 CV even with every division up there and I wouldnt be able to use most them due to needing 16 MP to attack.

I think you probably could have destroyed it by locking it in the city hex. There were so many troops around and i was really sending that mot as Kamikaze[:D] A tactics i love to use but is banned by house rule in another game of mine[:(]

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beender- its a possibility but if that attack failed it would have compromised the entire defense...as well with the slow digging right now I would have lost all my forts on the southern end of the line compromising the entire situation even if I won. So a big risk for an iffy attack...as I would have only had like maybe 15 CV for the attack against 45 CV showing....yes mass can make up some different but I dont think It can overcome that much. esp since you were still green on supply.

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North- the great retreat...notice the entire front has to go around the 1 german division as again like 20+ CV Soviets just cant attack that lol.....

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Center forced to give ground of due to german movements would result in him routing a huge chunk of the defense line....as he has a habit of punching the rear out so then an attack on a 3 stack routs them all.

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South- more running...and as you will see in a couple turns...german supply isnt really hindered in the least this far east.

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well not good and the germans just keep moving forward......