Raising the Rike Too (A WitE Parody)

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Game Settings (Copied From Michael T's opponent request)

Sudden Death 41CG scenario
Server game
Locked HQ Support
Full FOW
Non Random Weather or Random. Your choice.
Standard Blizzard
No +1 to Soviet Combat Odds

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House Rules

No Para drops at all
No bombing of HQ's unless stacked with a ground unit
No Night Bombing of Airfields

Additional: Finland Border requirement

No naval invasions before November 1941, none outside the 1939 Soviet borders before January 1943 In addition if Sevastopol is either isolated, or in German hands, none west of the Crimea, which reflects the scope for air/naval interdiction not really reflected in the game. (This is Pelton’s rule)

Additional Sudden Death rules for 1941. Used to help prevent unrealistic Soviet retreat strategies in summer 1941 and to prevent unrealistic German retreats prior to and during the early blizzard period.

German SD victory check is made at the beginning of the German 4th December 1941 turn. If the German VP total is equal to or greater than 243 VP they win an Auto Victory.
Soviet SD victory check is made at the Beginning of the Soviet 1st January 1942 turn. If the German VP total is equal to or less than 205 VP then the Soviets win an Auto Victory.

I may post pictures from time to time once I work out how to do so with Windows 10

Thanks to Michael for allowing me to plagiarise his AAR Title

Thoughts on the opening 2 turns

Running the latest Beta 1.09.00 and I think that it may have changed German unit movement as I was unable to lock down the Lvov pocket however I did manage to break the railway line so it stopped the majority of the soviet units from escaping, but even if I had closed the pocket I wouldn't of expected it to hold.

A pretty standard opening for AGC I was able to pocket most of the Soviet forces before Minsk and Michael was unable or unwilling to attempt to open it up again.

AGN I followed the advice that had been given in other AAR's about not letting too many units to rout from the pocket that was created the down side was that some of them rallied in MT's turn & he was able to use them to cut off my advance units so maybe there is an advantage to clearing routing units away.

Turn 2 was about fully establishing the Lvov & AGN pockets & cutting off any other units as well as clearing the AGC pocket & continuing the advance toward my 3 objectives.Russian aviation had melted away on T2 but I was able to find some airfields that had recon aircraft on them & was able to destroy quite a few on the ground. Russian air losses are in the region of 4500 planes of all types over the first 2 turns (the majority of which were destroyed on the first turn.)

The Romanian 3rd & 4th Armies Along with the German 11th Army advance to the east meeting little or no resistance, though I expect that to change sooner rather than later.

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Yes you did find and smash up some of my Recon's. Not nice [:)]
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M.T is away for a few days so just a quick post its T3 & I have just encountered the Soviet MLR heavy concentration of units around the land bridge. Both 9th & 4th are still advancing towards Smolensk & will be in contact next turn. 4th Panzer army crosses the river just south of Pskov & both 16th & 18th Armies are moving to assist. In the south 1st Panzer army has moved to the outskirts of Kiev backed up by the quickly arriving 6th & 17th Armies.
The 11th Army & the 3rd & 4th Romanian armies are still heading to the east meeting no resistance as they go.
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Somehow I appear to have lost a turn, for some strange reason I thought that we were on T4 when actually it is my 5th turn. At first I thought it was a bug whereas in reality I was not paying attention.

Like all good propaganda there may be untruth's about unit dispositions this is because Michael is welcome to read & make comments (if he so wishes)

Progress Report

Heeresgruppe Nord:

4th Panzer Armee moves crablike to the east of Pskov & towards Novgorod but progress is hampered by the poor terrain
16th & 18th Armee's are moving up to support the 4th Panzer Armee
1 weak infantry Korp from the 18th Armee is moving towards both Tallinn & Narva with the intention of cutting the railway line between Tallinn & Leningrad
Last remaining Rifle division outside of Riga surrendered this turn (it's not as easy as it used to be to get surrenders especially if the cut off units are occupying more difficult terrain)
Rail network should be on the outskirts of Pskov by T6

Heeresgruppe Mitte:

Strong enemy formations have been detected in the area between Vitebsk & the upper Dnieper (to the north of Mogilev) & they appear to be very well entrenched

3rd Panzer Armee backed up by elements of the 16th & 9th Armee's as well as the newly arrived 2nd Armee are enveloping Vitebsk from the north
2nd Panzer Armee backed up by strong elements of the 9th Armee have crossed the Dnieper in force around the town of Mogilev 4th Armee is holding station & is preparing to assist 2nd Panzer Armee with expanding the bridgehead.

Rail network has reached Minsk

Heeresgruppe Sud:

Slowest moving of the 3 Heeresgruppe's due to the slow rail conversion, mainly due to having to clear up the Lvov pocket. 90% of all available transports have been allocated to this theatre

Hungarian & Slovakian units are still in action on the Hungarian border reducing the last remaining opposition from the Lvov pocket

4th Romanian Armee has cut the last rail line to Odessa

11th Armee & 3rd Romanian Armee are continuing their advance toward the Dnieper river bend

6th & 17th Armee's are moving into position to effect a river crossing next turn while 1st Panzer Armee is waiting to exploit any potential gains.

Fun Loving Finns

Continuing their advance towards the Svir river & Leningrad meeting only token resistance at the moment, although heavy concentrations of soviet units have been reported ahead of the advancing columns.

Air war

We appear to have destroyed another 2,000 or so aircraft since T2 but the majority of these are obsolete aircraft. Though we have had some success destroying the VVS on the ground our fighter sweeps have not garnered as many shot down aircraft as I would have expected (perhaps the combat equations may need to be tweaked?)

Conclusion

All in all I am relatively satisfied with my progress, certainly not as good as Pelton's vast advances but I think I am about where I should be historically. The next few turns will be crucial for the Axis so we shall have to wait to see what Michael's response will be.

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KUDOS, your report, enjoying it. If Pooh-bear had a brain, Pooh would study Pelton, MT, Loki100, et al, to learn this game, but your well written & played AAR is appreciated.
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KUDOS, your report, enjoying it. If Pooh-bear had a brain, Pooh would study Pelton, MT, Loki100, et al, to learn this game, but your well written & played AAR is appreciated.

Thank you, your comments are very much appreciated
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Progress Report Turns 6 & 7

Heeresgruppe Nord:

4th Panzer Armee continues slowly pushing towards Novgorod against ever stiffening resistance
16th & 18th Armee's are contiuing to support the 4th Panzer Armee & the 18th Armee captured Pskov on Turn 6.
A security division captured Tallinn (unopposed) this turn & infantry Korp from the 18th Armee has cut the rail line between Tallinn & Leningrad & is continuing its advance towards Narva encountering only sporadic resistance.


Heeresgruppe Mitte:

The enemy has surprisingly maintained strong & well entrenched forces between both Vitebsk & the upper Dnieper, stalling the advance of the 9th Armee, which has responded by masking the the enemy based around Vitebsk while sending powerful forces both north & south of the city

3rd Panzer Armee backed up by elements of the 16th & 9th Armee's & the 2nd Armee have captured Velikie Luki (which fell on T.7) The 3rd Panzer Armee is now ideally placed to either continue to advance towards Rzhev or to turn north to help 4th Panzer Armee isolate Leningrad.
2nd Panzer Armee backed up by strong elements of the 9th Armee & the 4th Armee expanded the bridgehead gained on T.5 & the 2nd Panzer Armee has arrived on the outskirts of Smolensk cutting any rail movement between the towns of Smolensk & Vitebsk.

Heeresgruppe Sud:

4th Romanian Armee captured Odessa on T.6 (2 soviet rifle divisions have been isolated) & elements have reached the outskirts of Nikolaev

11th Armee & 3rd Romanian Armee are still continuing their advance toward the Dnieper river bend

6th & 17th Armee's crossed the Dnieper on T.6 & 1st Panzer Armee is slowly expanding the bridgehed

Fun Loving Finns

The Kannas Army has arrived at the Leningrad no attack line While the Karelian Army has made 2 failed attempts to breakthrough the Soviet forces defending the Janis river. In my defence I transferred every piece of heavy & super heavy artillery to the Infantry corps that were preparing to make the assault, only to forget that we are playing with unlocked HQ's & because I didn't lock them all the artillery transferred back out

Conclusion:

I have decided (for good or ill) to rout units rather than trying to isolate & destroy them as time is against me & I will need push much faster & harder if I want to capture Moscow before winter sets in. The situation is very fluid now, especially in front of Heeresgruppe Mitte but unfortunately I fully expect that Michael will somehow manage to stabilise the front & I will have to start all over again.

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I do hope something breaks open for you soon, or your opponent will be too strong.
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Report on Turns 7 & 8 to follow, As an aside both Michael & myself playing this game with unlocked HQ's & I was wondering where all my pioneers, Stug, Flak, & artillery SU's had vanished to and it transpires that there must be a very heavy partisan problem at the moment as all the heavy equipment has transferred into the Security HQ's, Moral of the story if you ever think about playing with unlocked HQ's I have one word for you. DON'T
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DON'T
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excellent advice
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Well locking the HQs is matter of 2 clicks.
all the heavy equipment has transferred into the Security HQ's
This is utterly silly, maybe morvael can look at this and eventually prohibit AI moving combat support units to security HQs
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The answer is to set HQ SU levels to the right level - 0 in the case of RHQs
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AFAIK there will still receive pioneer battalions
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you can lock or unlock HQs just by clicking. Some players like the unlock because after several turns the support units might migrate where you want them with no AP use.

I would say I prefer locked as the movement appears to random to me and units/HQs in the urals seem to end up with support units even when set at 0.
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I always prefer to have locked HQ's from the get go. I am not sure why we went with unlocked to begin with.
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I always prefer to have locked HQ's from the get go. I am not sure why we went with unlocked to begin with.

I was curious to see what would happen, my curiosity has now been satisfied
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Progress Report Turns 8 & 9

Heeresgruppe Nord:

4th Panzer Armee OKH Orders 4th Panzer Armee to turn South & link up with the 3rd Panzer Armee with the intention of trapping 9 soviet divisions
16th & 18th Armee's are contiuing to support the 4th Panzer Armee & elements of the 18th Armee have captured Narva & created a bridgehead across the river Narva

Heeresgruppe Mitte:

In response to 3rd Panzer Armee's push to the North & 2nd Panzer Armee's push to the South of Vitebsk soviet forces that had been stalling the 9th Armee's adavance have withdrawn back toward Smolensk
seeing this OKH ordered the 3rd Panzer Armee northwards to link with 4th Panzer Armee near the town of Poddorye & after heavy fighting they have suceeded in trapping 4 tank divisions & 5 Rifle divisions, heavy counter attacks are expected, however both Armee commanders expect the pocket to hold.
2nd Panzer Armee Continues to move around Smolensk & lead elements are on the outskirts of Durovo some 70 odd miles to the east of Smolensk
4th Armee Captured Gomel & a Panzer Korp from 2nd Panzer Armee which had been assisting 1st Panzer Armee with its drive on Kiev is now moving in a north easterly direction towards the town of Bryansk

Heeresgruppe Sud:
The Slovakian corp & the Hungarian Mobile Corp assisted by an infantry division fron the 6th Armee captured Kiev

4th Romanian Armee has captured Nikolaev & forward elements have reached the towns of Kherson & Snigerevka encountering only sporadic resistance.

11th,17th & 3rd Romanian Armee's are still continuing their advance toward the Dnieper river bend

6th Armee & 1st Panzer Armee are preparing to drive on Kharkov

Fun Loving Finns

The Kannas Army is digging a defensive trench network at the Leningrad no attack line While the Karelian Army has made another failed attempt to breakthrough the Soviet forces defending the Janis river. The only bright spot is that they are tying down 9 divisions that are not facing Heeresgruppe Nord

Airwar, Total losses for the soviet airforce to date is around 8.5K of all types
The weather is supposed to be clear for the next turn, lets hope it remains so.

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Turns 10 & 11 coming soon
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Progress Report Turns 10 & 11

Heeresgruppe Nord:

4th Panzer Armee & 3rd Panzer Armee continue pushing northwards towards Leningrad and to the east of lake Ilmen
16th & 18th Armee's are contiuing to support the 4th & 3rd Panzer Armee's & elements of the 18th Armee are continuing to expand the bridgehead across the river Narva

Heeresgruppe Mitte:


2nd Panzer Armee bypasses Smolensk (which was captured by elements of the 9th Armee) & are slowly pushing eastwards towards Vyazma (while waiting on the Infantry Korps of the
4th Armee & 9th Armees to catch up a Panzer Korp from 2nd Panzer Armee which had been assisting 1st Panzer Armee with its drive on Kiev is continuing towards the town of Bryansk

Heeresgruppe Sud:

The Hungarian Mobile Corp continues eastwards operating independently between the 4th Armee of Heeresgruppe Mitte & the 6th Armee of Heeresgruppe Sud

4th Romanian Armee has crossed the Dnieper in the face of increasing resistance

11th,17th & 3rd Romanian Armee's are still continuing their advance toward the Dnieper river bend

6th Armee & 1st Panzer Armee have begun to advance on Kharkov

Fun Loving Finns
The Karelian Army has made yet another failed attempt to breakthrough the Soviet forces defending the Janis river. It would be nice if I was able to choose what units & SU's were to be commited to a deliberate attack rather than letting the AI do it.

Airwar, Total losses for the soviet airforce to date is around 9K of all types MT seems to be bombing my spearheads but my fighters do not seem to be coming up to intecept so it might be that they are set to bomb at night I may have to do something about that although I have been getting significant numbers of AC destroyed when I attack his airbases with bombing attacks & fighter sweeps.

The weather is again supposed to be clear but there is a chance of Mud in the Soviet Central Zone so we will have to wait and see if we do get mud & if we do it will seriously curtail operations in the Heeresgruppe Sud area as well as slowing the push towards Moscow & Leningrad.

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