Round 2 2vs2 Dahnyul/Kondor vs Tica/Polonthi

[rjh1971]

Wooow, amazing keep it up [8D]

[Joel Rauber]

Newbie Question:

I just started reading the AAR and am very new to the game. Early on Japan refers to forgetting to take their SS?? What is that referring to?

Thanks

[GKar]

ScreenShot. [:)]

(Under the right circumstances it would mean submarine though.)

[Petiloup]

Spring 1947:

Allies:

The spring offensive is decisive. Russia did retreat from Germany to counter the push from Yugoslavia keeping the airforce and the navy to supply the troops but we send an all out attack on those destroying all airforce in Western Europe and most of the Russian navy in the Baltic.

We send the Tanks from France to Western Germany and from Yugoslavia to take West and East Poland, Hungary, Tchekoslovkia, landings are done against Finland.

In the Center Stalingrad and Gorki are occupied via the Urals troops receiving supplies through Siberia rail lines. Vladivostok is stormed and the surviving airforce destroyed in Kamtchatka.

We will suffer some losses from lonely troops next turn but at this moment it's of no consequence as the damage is done and impossible to reverse. The Allies have 2 times as many fighters than Russia and enough TAC and HVY bombers to keep destroying rail lines and troops.

Troops on the ground enjoy superiority in numbers and quality.

It's definitely very hard for Russia to win WW3 without a clear advantage at the beginning and reaching AV in the first few turns.

(Guess some losses comes from WW2 as the total seems high but it shows that Russia fighters did do quite a bit of damage.)

[Petiloup]

Summer 1947:

Allies:

If you look at the map you'll wonder as me how the Victory Screen doesn't appear yet.

After this turn nothing much left from Russia. Moscow, Berlin, Prussia, Baltic State, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Archangelsk, Murmansk, Sevastopol. Kamtchatka,... all falling in the hands of our troops. The main part of Russia's army is trapped in Austria with no supplies and no chance to get any anytime soon.

To give this scenario a chance there should be some demobilization of US troops before the start of WW3 maybe with a minimum in case the US finish the WAR in a bad shape. Something simple like minus 50% with a minimum of 75% of Russia numbers unless Russia attacks Neutrals with 25% back in the US. If Russia did attack 2 neutrals then showing some aggressivity against the "free world" then it would be +10% (2 times 5% per country attacked) to give 60% to min 85% of Russia numbers and 15% back in the US. That would give Russia a chance I think.

The AI would do the adjustments without the player controls. Afterall the US is a democracy and the army doesn't make the decisions in time of peace.

[tcart]

Russia surrenders. The Russians simply can't compete with the US industry, to say nothing of their strategic mobility.

[MrQuiet]

Good Job Guys.
Its obvious WWIII is a easy win for Western Allies and I think we will change the victory conditions in round 3 and 4 to make the WA capture Moscow to get the full 15pts, I think that will prove tougher but certainly not impossible.

WWIII
Polinthi 6 x .25  =  1.5 +15 for DV  16.5
Tica  1 x .25  =  .25  =  0 for DL  .25

[Petiloup]

Taking Moscow is not impossible (I took it easily only because the Victory didn't include this part or Tim would surely have defended it more) but is it possible before you get AV by the Allies?

Surely not easily unless you refrain yourself so does it mean to continue the game after AV to see if you can take Moscow?

[MrQuiet]

ORIGINAL: Polonthi

Surely not easily unless you refrain yourself so does it mean to continue the game after AV to see if you can take Moscow?

No continue.
AV would end WWIII

WA wins via East/West with in game AV(i.e. required strat points) no Moscow WA +5 SU 0
WA wins via capturing Moscow WA +15 SU 0
Game ends before WA gets AV or Moscow and WA has more than 22sp SU +15 WA 0
Game ends before WA gets AV or Moscow and WA has less than 23sp SU +20 WA 0
SU gets east/west AV SU +25 WA +0

How does that sound??

[Petiloup]

Not sure how it sounds but at least it would put some pressure against the Allies to prevent Russia to go to far to fast in Europe. Russia can't do much against Japan during WW2 anyway.

At the end this scenario WW3 depends on the ending of WW2

If Axis goes after Russia then it's from the start impossible for Russia to win this WW3

If Axis goes against the Allies and Russia is left untouched then it's possible for Russia to win if the damage done against the Allies is extensive and if not it can be a fair fight.