When does Romania joins Axis if Hungary already Axis before DE611?

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When does Romania joins Axis if Hungary already Axis before DE611?

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If Hungary joins the Axis vis diplo before DE611 fires, when does Romania joins the Axis (assuming no diplo on Romania)?

Is it 1940/11/23 oe 1940/08/30?

I'm assuming DE611 doesn't fire if Hungary is already Axis, or does it? If it doesn't fire, then Romania doesn't lose territory to Hungary, so does it them activate on the earlier date?

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Hungary joins
1940/10/20 (Yes to DE611) or 1940/12/01 (No to DE611)

Romania joins
1940/11/23 (Yes to DE611) or 1940/08/30 (No to DE611)
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Re: When does Romania joins Axis if Hungary already Axis before DE611?

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If DE 611 doesn't fire, then they will join the Axis on the 23rd November 1940.
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Re: When does Romania joins Axis if Hungary already Axis before DE611?

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BillRunacre wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:58 am If DE 611 doesn't fire, then they will join the Axis on the 23rd November 1940.
Okay, thanks - I assume then that DE 611 won't fire if Hungary is already Axis before that DE comes up?
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Re: When does Romania joins Axis if Hungary already Axis before DE611?

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Correct.

DE 611 - Germany: Resolve Territorial Disputes In Eastern Europe?
Event fires: On the 30th August 1940 when Poland has surrendered, the USSR is
Allied but not fully mobilized, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary are Axis but not fully
mobilized, and Germany honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Cost of accepting: Nothing.
Yes: Hungary will gain Northern Transylvania and Bulgaria Southern Dobruja at the
end of June 1940. King Carol II will be forced to abdicate as Antonescu takes power,
and in January 1941 Antonescu will crush the Iron Guard's rebellion.
No: Romania retains its territorial integrity and may join the Axis slightly earlier,
while Hungary and Bulgaria would join the Axis at a later date.
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